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Old May 4, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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Vacume line issue

Does anyone here know where to get a factory molded set of vacume lines for a 93 Bronco would like to keep it origanal under the hood for emmisions reasons her in hell (PHX,AZ) I checked with My local Ford dealer and they said they do not make them anymore? I know it is a long shot but thought I would try here.
 
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Old May 4, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Vacuum Lines

Soberdude - I just replaced my lines on my 94 (5.8) with new rubber lines - 5/32" except the one that goes from the intake manifold to the AC/heater box? - passenger side (I am not sure what it is). That one is 7/32". You will also need a 3/16" to 1/8" reducer for a small control unit? - passenger side inner fender near the fire wall. You shouldn't have any problems with the state emissions. I'm in Phx too and don't expect any issues.

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Old May 5, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Can't get the stupid plastic lines that were employed on newer vehicles and that is a #$%^ing good thing. What is the point to using a vacuum line that vitrifies as it gets exposed to the elements and ages? Replacement should be with rubber or something that will not succumb to vitrification as it ages.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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So... get windscreen washer lines and get them trimmed for your needs.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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I really think you'd be better off just buying real black rubber vac lines, cutting them to length and then looming them/zip tying them accordingly to make them look pretty. At least that's what I've done on the '87.......
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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So... get windscreen washer lines and get them trimmed for your needs.
Where would I find these ?
Going to rubber sounds a lot better for the heat here in hell. I will follow directions LOL
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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You need to be careful with the rubber lines when you replace the plastic because the inside diameters are important to provide the right amount of vacuum to the EEC-IV sensors. Too much or too little vacuum will create discrepancies in sensor values if the amount of vacuum supplied to the sensor varies too much from OEM.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by greystreak92
You need to be careful with the rubber lines when you replace the plastic because the inside diameters are important to provide the right amount of vacuum to the EEC-IV sensors. Too much or too little vacuum will create discrepancies in sensor values if the amount of vacuum supplied to the sensor varies too much from OEM.
Vacuum is vacuum, whether it's being sucked from a 1/8" hose line or an 8" hose line. It's all the same (it's not like water pressure or electrical amperage).

But what you DO NOT want are leaks---that's why I always install vac gauges on my vehicles. Tells you in a second if you have a leak.....or worse...........
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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Convince your MAP sensor of that.... better yet, convince your brake booster of that.
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by greystreak92
Convince your MAP sensor of that.... better yet, convince your brake booster of that.
Just for drill, are you saying that a 1/4" vacuum line at 18hg will not operate a brake booster, but a 9/16" line pulling the same hg's will? Not trying to start a bitch fight, it's just my morbid curiosity at work...........
 
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I'm saying it will operate it... just not maintain it properly. It won't recover well enough and frankly not fast enough.
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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OK - now I am unsure if I did mine correctly or not. The factory plastic lines were maybe 1/8" ID and used appx 5/32" fittings to make the connections (3/16"). As stated above I used new 5/32" rubber lines (one 7/32") ran them neatly, looks good, the truck runs better now, I haven't gotten any trouble codes and the gas mileage has gone up quite a bit. So, is this correct? Did I give soberdude bad advice? Please let us know.

Thanks Mark
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by D24x4
OK - now I am unsure if I did mine correctly or not. The factory plastic lines were maybe 1/8" ID and used appx 5/32" fittings to make the connections (3/16"). As stated above I used new 5/32" rubber lines (one 7/32") ran them neatly, looks good, the truck runs better now, I haven't gotten any trouble codes and the gas mileage has gone up quite a bit. So, is this correct? Did I give soberdude bad advice? Please let us know.

Thanks Mark
Again, I'm still not convinced at all that a 10--20 percent increase or decrease in interior hose size is gonna make a lick of difference on any vacuum operated/controlled device under the hood----but I will say this, and that is I HIGHLY recommend installing a vac gauge inside the cab. Better yet, install a second one under the hood as well like I have. These little gizmos can tell you an awful lot about your engine, believe it or not.

Here's a great website to spend 4 or 5 minutes on. And make sure you scroll all the way down to the animated gauge)..........


How to Use and Interpret a Vacuum Gauge
 
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