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Old May 5, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl4Cat
Just out of curiosity, where to people get pulled over for weighing? Up in New England, we have weigh stations, but for commercial trucks only. Never seen any TT's or 5'ers in there.
I have talked to folks who were pulled over in California and Oregon and then "escorted" to weigh stations to be checked. And cited and grounded (had to leave trailer behind until an adequate TV was used). Keep in mind, these were monster rigs - 3 axle toy haulers loaded to gills being towed by an F250 and a Dodge 2500. Anyone looking at them would be hard pressed to imagine they weighed anything close to legal.

From everything you've described about your setup AND mindset, I predict you will be just fine. The truck will feel (and be) top heavy, but prudent driving will keep that in check.

I purchased a full size 8' bed so I could load the quads transversely across the bed. Having the dense center (the engines) of both quads in the center of the truck resulted in very little tippy feeling. Something to consider on your next truck. Secondary benefits: Can load and unload without unhitching trailer! And can ride on and off in forward gears - much more comfortable.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mwsF250
I have talked to folks who were pulled over in California and Oregon and then "escorted" to weigh stations to be checked. And cited and grounded (had to leave trailer behind until an adequate TV was used). Keep in mind, these were monster rigs - 3 axle toy haulers loaded to gills being towed by an F250 and a Dodge 2500. Anyone looking at them would be hard pressed to imagine they weighed anything close to legal.

From everything you've described about your setup AND mindset, I predict you will be just fine. The truck will feel (and be) top heavy, but prudent driving will keep that in check.

I purchased a full size 8' bed so I could load the quads transversely across the bed. Having the dense center (the engines) of both quads in the center of the truck resulted in very little tippy feeling. Something to consider on your next truck. Secondary benefits: Can load and unload without unhitching trailer! And can ride on and off in forward gears - much more comfortable.
Let me add something here. I also carry two weight tickets from the cat scales, one emtpy and one loaded.

I do this so that I can quickly show that I am ok and within the not only the 23K from Ford but under the 26K limit for my drivers lic.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mwsF250
I appreciate the "expert" knowledge!

Is this true for collision coverage?
Liability cannot be a reason for denying coverage, first party (collision) or third party (liability). In any policy there might be "excluded acts" (i.e. racing, wrecked your car on purpose, lit it on fire, pushed it off a cliff). However, you would have to have the intent to cause the damage, not just making a dumb mistake.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Thanks again for everyone's input. It has been VERY helpful. I ordered the airbags and digital air command this morning. Ordered a tongue scale while I was at it so I know exactly where I'm at there. Will be ordering my atv carrier within the week. mwsf250, I hear you on the benefits of the 8 foot bed. Maybe next time around....
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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They wouldn't. With an RV for private use you're exempt. The only time I think you'd have a problem is if your truck was noticeably overloaded to the point that it was obviously unsafe.

From the sounds of it you have nothing to worry about.



I disagree with a couple things here. First, to haul the max TIRE LOAD the tires have to be inflated to the max. if you have a 6,000 lb axle and tires rated for 3,300 lbs each you do NOT have to be at 80 PSI! 75 would be more appropriate.

Also it is NEVER acceptable to exceed the maximum cold inflation pressure on a tire. Such things cause uneven wear at best and sudden failure at worst. I used to drive tractor-trailers, and we NEVER had tires inflated to the max.
I was talking tire load not axle load. And if u want to haul 3300 lbs on a tire rated 3300 lbs @ 80 psi you need 80 psi NOT 75 DUH. And in most cases you will overload your axles before you overload your tires. In the extreme world of oilfield trucking we always keep all tires inflated at least to the max if not higher. We run mostly load range H tires that have a max load rateing at 120 psi. Sometime we can only find the more common G rated tires which only call for 105 max psi. The tire experts at Goodyear tell us to go ahead and run 120 psi in the G tires anyway as the advantage of the H over the G, besides the 2 extra plies is the added air pressure. This is only when you want to put H size loads on G rated tires. You can do the same thing by inflating a D rated tire to 75 or 80 pounds if it overloaded and looks half flat a 65 psi. I don't recommend these practices but they can get you out of a tight spot.
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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The airbags are a great idea on several counts.
1) No need to readjust headlights
2) Better ride..
3) Better handling and control.
4) Reduces the chances of getting pulled over to get load checked! If the truck is sitting nice and level, it looks like everything is OK and in control. When the rear end is drooping and dragging and bouncing, it sure makes casual observers wonder if maybe it's a tad bit overloaded.... Adding cab lights and removing the F-250 badges aids the illusion. Helps LEO's assume it is a 350 with heavy ratings....

Take the full rig for a test run before the trip. You may want to upgrade rear shocks as well. If what you have are in good condition, you should be OK. But if oil is degraded or low, you may find the rear end pogoing after every bump. Kinda nauseating if you don't have good sea legs....
 
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