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Old May 4, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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First of all, I said "beefed AOD", not a stock scrappy special with 100,000 miles on it 20 years old.

The AOD is a weak sister trans and early models are trouble. Is this $54 box an '88 to '93 job with the original factory defects corrected? What condition is it? Did it come out of a car with a six or an eight? Is the time to pull it out if it's not right worth nothing here? Can the OP rebuild a trans with just a kit?

Plus, again, the AOD is going to require driveshaft and crossmember work, as it is shorter than the E4OD.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
First of all, I said "beefed AOD", not a stock scrappy special with 100,000 miles on it 20 years old.

The AOD is a weak sister trans and early models are trouble. Is this $54 box an '88 to '93 job with the original factory defects corrected? What condition is it? Did it come out of a car with a six or an eight? Is the time to pull it out if it's not right worth nothing here? Can the OP rebuild a trans with just a kit?

Plus, again, the AOD is going to require driveshaft and crossmember work, as it is shorter than the E4OD.
all a beefed AOD really is is a stock AOD with some 4R70W which is just a revised AOD with upgrades to the POS parts that were in the AOD. and if you have a fairly LOW mileage AOD and a fairly LOW mileage 4R70W and take the rebuild kit and put them together you'll be fine.

ok just get the driveshaft and Crossmember out of a truck with an AOD and same wheel base. and bam problem solved.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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ok just get the driveshaft and Crossmember out of a truck with an AOD and same wheel base. and bam problem solved.
I am pretty sure you have never tried to get a driveshaft from a junkyard or you would know it's almost impossible to find one that hasn't been destroyed by the forklift they use to move the vehicles around.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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And for $54 you get a low mile unit?

And you'd put it together with the old bushings and seals?

And it would be just as good as:

TCI Auto: AOD StreetFighter® Transmission
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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.... who is going to be using old bearings and seals? and its $54 for any automatic transmission if u pick one with 1 mile or a billion miles

if u buy a new pump and valve body it will be as good as that

but if u dont have tools or know how then u might as well go buy that one

i will say this much tho if u plan on off roading alot then i suggest buying a manual and learning
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitokori
.... who is going to be using old bearings and seals? and its $54 for any automatic transmission if u pick one with 1 mile or a billion miles

if u buy a new pump and valve body it will be as good as that

but if u dont have tools or know how then u might as well go buy that one

i will say this much tho if u plan on off roading alot then i suggest buying a manual and learning
OK, I see your points, but my point originally is there is usually, if not always, a hidden set of costs in doing a swap. And, imo, in this case those costs are going to at least approach the cost of a controller, if not exceed it by quite a bit.

Add the value of the TIME it takes to search these things out and possibly do multiple R&R jobs, and it could exceed the controller cost by quite a bit.


Anyway, I think the OP has plenty to chew on here--buy it, or search it out and DIY, etc. Good luck.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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yup i understand what ur saying and agree
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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yeah i agree too but if hes in this deep i know i would love to learn how to rebuild a tranny. a great skill to have. will be learning here in bout 6 months.
 
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Old May 5, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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I am pretty sure you have never tried to get a driveshaft from a junkyard or you would know it's almost impossible to find one that hasn't been destroyed by the forklift they use to move the vehicles around.
the drivers around here pick it up from the front with the forks basically running along the frame on trucks and RWD cars. and from the side on the FWD cars
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 06:13 AM
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I do have the know how to do either one as ive swapped a few trannies in trucks and im the one who put the motor in my truck but i just wanna know the best way to go. overdrive is really nice as i wanna TRY to save a little gas but it will be used for light hauling and im hoping to get 350 horse about out of my 302. its soon getting a mild lift kit also. like 4 inch with 33s or 35s as i can only fit 31s up front and still steer lol. sometimes i can be heavy on the skinny pedal too and i like to beat on the truck once in a great while. i do some off-roading but not really very serious bout it but like to play alot.
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 06:16 AM
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thats why i was thinking the contoller may be the way to go because i can adjust shift points and all that. am also gonna flush the tranny, new filter, and top it off with some new good fluid.
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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Why not just put the EFI back on the '79 motor? It'll only cost you the price of a few gaskets and the existing trans will work again.
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Exactly wat i was thinking. Should have done that in the first place with a MAF conversion... Could still use the same performance parts to get where you wanna be and have your E4OD.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 06:12 AM
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but the thing is....before i originally pulled the EFI motor out of the truck, someone hacked up all the wiring under the hood. there were wires taped together and all that becuase plugs were broken and all sorts of BS so i figured what the hell i gotta 302 with only 70,000 miles on it and i might as well put that in and make a new harness for it and call it good. i had no idea what i was getting into with the tranny. i never thought about it. stupid mistake on my part for not looking things over before i jumped right into it.
 
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Old May 7, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dave.s3693
i had no idea what i was getting into with the tranny. i never thought about it. stupid mistake on my part for not looking things over before i jumped right into it.
It happens to the best of us. A used wiring harness could have been had for cheap thugh, either online or at your local junkyard.
 
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