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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Engine Ticking 5.4L 2003 Expy

Does anyone ahve more detail on TSB 16403? Reason I ask, I truck has recently developed a ticking noise (80000 miles). Usually on cold start-up. Sounds like in the valve train. However, I have noticed that the dealer, on their last service, put in too much oil (roughly 1/2" over max). COUld this have casued any issues, or created the ticking noise. It does go away after a while...but the noise is rather embarassing.

TSB 16403...that is the United States TSB number. Does anyone know the Canadian TSB number? They're different (usually 6 digits).
 
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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The 5.4 is notorious for being noisy on cold starts. Most of the time it is a little piston slap, sometimes mine makes a little valvetrain rattle too.

Slightly overfilling the crankcase did not cause the problem. It is simply age. There is also nothing to worry about. If it is quiet when warmed up a little, what you hear is normal for the 5.4, and I wouldn't worry about it. keep doing regular maint and the engine will go 300k miles easy.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by erniek70
truck has recently developed a ticking noise (80000 miles). Usually on cold start-up. Sounds like in the valve train.
Look through each of the front wheel wells at the exhaust manifolds. Count the number of nuts/studs that you see on each of them. Anything less than 8 on either of the manifolds and you've found the source of the ticking noise.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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tough to see the studs! how on earth do I look at them? too much stuff in the way!
 
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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My wife's 04 Expedition also has an intermittent piston slap issue on cold starts. Sometimes it actually get pretty loud, but goes away after a few seconds. Luckily.

Nothing too much to worry about.

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tough to see the studs! how on earth do I look at them? too much stuff in the way!
It is pretty tough to see there, for sure, but what you could also do is to stick your hand in there and try feeling them. Better do that while the engine is cold, though...
 
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Do you know nut head size? I could probably feel my way around with a wrench/socket. I guess I can find out on the 3rd bank....I can see those nits. They aren't very big! no wonder they break
 
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tough to see the studs! how on earth do I look at them? too much stuff in the way!
You can jack up the front end and let the tires hang which will give you more room. You can also take the tires off or remove the wheel well skirts if you need to. You can also try looking down from the top and use a bright light and a mirror.
 
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