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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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guys guys guys relax a bit i just was wondering cause the light in the dash is kind of annoying...i will get it fixed sorry!


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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 01:32 AM
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no problem. it's a annoying and sensitive subject for me. because of TPMS and stupid people, new rims for either vehicle will cost me an additional $200-300 for knock-off parts...and almost $400 if I use OEM stuff.

I had a flat repaired last week and the tire guy broke the TPMS band on my Mustangs 18" rim. It cost them $65 for the strap alone.
Luckily OEM Parts & OEM Wheels - Original Equipment Parts from NewTakeOff has those sensors for $99 in a 4 pack. but I'd still have to get some straps...been thinking about using some banding material that you can grab at Lowes
the knock-off sensors I've seen are all the stick-on style without bands


however, the idea of making a PVC TPMS pipe bomb and putting it inside my trunkwell. supposedly it works
 
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 05:43 AM
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A whole lot of people died without them that would have survived with them!

that was my point they are a great safety item just like the tpms will be/ is
 
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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no problem. it's a annoying and sensitive subject for me. because of TPMS and stupid people, new rims for either vehicle will cost me an additional $200-300 for knock-off parts...and almost $400 if I use OEM stuff.

I had a flat repaired last week and the tire guy broke the TPMS band on my Mustangs 18" rim. It cost them $65 for the strap alone.
Luckily OEM Parts & OEM Wheels - Original Equipment Parts from NewTakeOff has those sensors for $99 in a 4 pack. but I'd still have to get some straps...been thinking about using some banding material that you can grab at Lowes
the knock-off sensors I've seen are all the stick-on style without bands


however, the idea of making a PVC TPMS pipe bomb and putting it inside my trunkwell. supposedly it works
Bands are going for about $20 ea. on E-bay. There's a set of sensors and bands for $165.00 currently available; NEW F-150 F150 TPMS tire pressure sensors with BANDS : eBay Motors (item 390182919473 end time Apr-21-10 09:45:36 PDT)

As for the pipe solution it does not work as the sensors require the rotational force of a spinning wheel to trip the signal transmitter in them.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the same moron who rolls his vehicle with a trailer that isn't using the proper towing gear isn't going to pay attention to that annoying icon lite on the dash either. I resent the fact that the manufactureres and government are trying to make vehicles idiot proof when that's an impossible mission to accomplish and it costs me more money because of the stupidity of the masses. If they made it optional and so that it could be turned off I wouldn't have a problem with it. I much prefer to keep things as simple as possible the way Henry Ford intended. It's much more reliable and less costly that way.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Fords doing it a bit to protect themselves too......if you roll your truck (think explorer)....and your tires were flat.....you can't sue ford.....or you'll lose anyway.....many safety things were brought on by the actual users that sued....blame them
 
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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I agree with the reasons given for Ford and the government making TPSM's standard on vehicles. But I strongly disagree and why it's even needed in the first place. Have we as a nation become so brain dead and morally corrupt that nobody is capable of accepting personal resposibility for their actions? Owning a vehicle is a priveledge, not a right. And along with priveledges there are resposibilities. The fact that the braindead of this country are forcing upon us more and more electronic monitors to protect us from ourselves at an increase in cost to the consumer when personal responsibility would do the same at no cost is nothing more than legalized theft from those who are resposible for their actions. Perhaps if less lawyers were permitted to practice law and people were required be responsible for their actions the problem could be corrected and new vehicle ownership could again be affordable for the average American. But the way things are now we are paying over $40,000 for vehicles that are actually worth $25,000-$30,000 plus increased costs of maintenance.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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like i said before most of fords designs are ALOT better than other company's, the fact that you don't have to worry about the sensor leaking air, core getting stuck inside or sensor, also like i said we charge at least $7.50-$15 per stem sensor just for the service kits not to mention most anything other than most fords require a tire relocation sequence to add another charge. my opinion ford has the best design for this Govt mandated safety device.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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I agree with the reasons given for Ford and the government making TPSM's standard on vehicles. But I strongly disagree and why it's even needed in the first place....
Agreed. It sucks that people are that stupid. Can anyone tell me, are the newer F150s capable of monitoring the exact PSI in each tire, or just light up when one tire is low?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 04:54 AM
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Can anyone tell me, are the newer F150s capable of monitoring the exact PSI in each tire?
No.


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or just light up when one tire is low?
Yes.

 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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They should look into that. I think alot of people would find it more useful and treat TPMS as a tool rather than a nuisance I cant remember if its GM or Chrysler (maybe both), but the info center in the dash will tell you the PSI of each tire. Then if one drops below, it will say "Low Tire" and light up the indicator in the dash.

Much faster and easier than breaking out the tire gauge and running around checking each tire. (not such a big deal in summer, but in winter it sucks).

However I guess I do see a problem often with this. Each sensor must be trained every time the tires are rotated. Otherwise when the dash says "LF Tire Low" and your LF tire was rotated to your LR, you will be thinking the wrong tire is low. TPMS are a pain to retrain. They have been out for how long, and we already have a book about 1.5" thick of different retrain procedures for different makes, models, and years. I would doubt anyone even bothers to do it.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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The only thing I would want is a way to disable it. I reckon I'll be keeping my 06 for a long time so I don't have to deal with it. When the aftermarket has a way to disable the big brother stuff you don't need I'll be looking to get a newer truck and the programer to make it the way I want it instead of the way the government wants me to have it. It didn't take long for the DPF's to be by-passed by the aftermarket so we could regain lost fuel economy and power, so I hope it won't take long for the aftermarket to do the same with other unneeded features the government is shoving down our throats. This isn't the same country I served.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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The only thing I would want is a way to disable it. I reckon I'll be keeping my 06 for a long time so I don't have to deal with it. When the aftermarket has a way to disable the big brother stuff you don't need I'll be looking to get a newer truck and the programer to make it the way I want it instead of the way the government wants me to have it. It didn't take long for the DPF's to be by-passed by the aftermarket so we could regain lost fuel economy and power, so I hope it won't take long for the aftermarket to do the same with other unneeded features the government is shoving down our throats. This isn't the same country I served.

I agree 100%. My 08 Powerstroke drives me nuts. I live at 7000 feet and work as high as 10,000 feet (Telluride Colorado). The air pressure and temp change going to and from work keeps my light on about 1/2 the time, more in the winter with greater temp changes in the day. 1st thing I did was call Ford to see how to disable it, and was PISSED to find out I have to deal with the light on the dash. I've tried everything from setting the pressure 20 psi lower (on the sensors) than I run them to putting a few lbs into them every couple of days (until I get to much pressure and have to stop). Next I think I'm gonna pull the dash and pull the bulb. The govt can kiss my a$$, they are getting way to far into our business. If people aren't checking their rigs (and have to have their car/truck tell them somthings wrong) then they shouldn't be driving. If the govt want to get into it, they should work on getting idiots off the road, not making it easier for them to keep driving!
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 05:33 AM
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I agree 100%. My 08 Powerstroke drives me nuts. I live at 7000 feet and work as high as 10,000 feet (Telluride Colorado). The air pressure and temp change going to and from work keeps my light on about 1/2 the time, more in the winter with greater temp changes in the day. 1st thing I did was call Ford to see how to disable it, and was PISSED to find out I have to deal with the light on the dash. I've tried everything from setting the pressure 20 psi lower (on the sensors) than I run them to putting a few lbs into them every couple of days (until I get to much pressure and have to stop). Next I think I'm gonna pull the dash and pull the bulb. The govt can kiss my a$$, they are getting way to far into our business. If people aren't checking their rigs (and have to have their car/truck tell them somthings wrong) then they shouldn't be driving. If the govt want to get into it, they should work on getting idiots off the road, not making it easier for them to keep driving!

you are a prime example of someone that should be running nitrogen
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg B
It didn't take long for the DPF's to be by-passed by the aftermarket so we could regain lost fuel economy and power, so I hope it won't take long for the aftermarket to do the same with other unneeded features the government is shoving down our throats. This isn't the same country I served.
Yes....its one that won't be covered in soot and our kids might be able to breathe in.......
 
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