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Procharger Supercharger
ProCharger Self-contained Superchargers and Intercooled Supercharging Systems
I recently saw this Procharger belt-driven supercharger and thought this may be cool. It doesn't list an application for an IDI, or even a V-Belt for a diesel engine for that matter. It got me thinking...N/A access for repairs with turbo performance...well kind of.
I got reading about centrifugal superchargers vs. turbos and found that this type of supercharger builds boost as the engine RPM increases, while a turbo will build pressure and boost regardless of RPM.
N/A acess, more nuts, and you could even run the Stan's headers for better exhaust flow.
I've never even held a turbo in my hand, or worked on one. I've never worked on a supercharer either. Got me thinking of cutting off the exhaust side of a used junkyard turbo, keeping the cold intake side, then putting a V-Belt pulley on the shaft. Then it could mount above the power steering pump. It wouldn't be the best way to get performance, but it could be a good way to get some more nuts while I save my money for a turbo setup.
What do you guys think?
Waste of time or somewhat practical?
I recently saw this Procharger belt-driven supercharger and thought this may be cool. It doesn't list an application for an IDI, or even a V-Belt for a diesel engine for that matter. It got me thinking...N/A access for repairs with turbo performance...well kind of.
I got reading about centrifugal superchargers vs. turbos and found that this type of supercharger builds boost as the engine RPM increases, while a turbo will build pressure and boost regardless of RPM.
N/A acess, more nuts, and you could even run the Stan's headers for better exhaust flow.
I've never even held a turbo in my hand, or worked on one. I've never worked on a supercharer either. Got me thinking of cutting off the exhaust side of a used junkyard turbo, keeping the cold intake side, then putting a V-Belt pulley on the shaft. Then it could mount above the power steering pump. It wouldn't be the best way to get performance, but it could be a good way to get some more nuts while I save my money for a turbo setup.
What do you guys think?
Waste of time or somewhat practical?
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If you want a belt-driven simplicity go with the real supercharger. Also you can't just put a pulley on the turbo shaft, as neither the shaft nor the bearings can support the radial load the belt would put on them.
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Dave, that's a Whipple tho, them twin-screw jobbies always take way too much space. I was talking about a Novi/Paxton centrifugal supercharger, those are usually about the size of a GM pancake-style A/C compressor.
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That's a Roots type or GM blower
Here is a centrifugal supercharger. Very compact and serviceable.
Jason
Here is a centrifugal supercharger. Very compact and serviceable.
Jason
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I would work on it and drive it where do i get one!!
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with the boos not coming in till higher up the rpm band this might be a way to amke the diesels act a bit more like a gasser, but why? I like having all my tourque available as soon as the tourque converter grabs on
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One of my friends has a Paxton on a Bullit Mustang.
I can't remember for sure, seems like he was running 6 or 7 pounds of boost at 5 or 6 thousand RPM.
If you had the gearing right, it would proabably be a step up over a NA engine, BUT.
With the pulley changes to get it right for the lower RPM diesel, I have to wonder how long it would last?
The oil supply is self contained, so I think heat would be an issue.
A turbo does causes higher back pressure in the manifolds, so the power is not really free, but it also is not taxing the engine at very low RPM's like a supercharger would be.
As for that Roots in my pictures above, I think that was more for show than anything else.
I can't remember for sure, seems like he was running 6 or 7 pounds of boost at 5 or 6 thousand RPM.
If you had the gearing right, it would proabably be a step up over a NA engine, BUT.
With the pulley changes to get it right for the lower RPM diesel, I have to wonder how long it would last?
The oil supply is self contained, so I think heat would be an issue.
A turbo does causes higher back pressure in the manifolds, so the power is not really free, but it also is not taxing the engine at very low RPM's like a supercharger would be.
As for that Roots in my pictures above, I think that was more for show than anything else.
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My opinion
One of my friends has a Paxton on a Bullit Mustang.
I can't remember for sure, seems like he was running 6 or 7 pounds of boost at 5 or 6 thousand RPM.
If you had the gearing right, it would proabably be a step up over a NA engine, BUT.
With the pulley changes to get it right for the lower RPM diesel, I have to wonder how long it would last?
The oil supply is self contained, so I think heat would be an issue.
A turbo does causes higher back pressure in the manifolds, so the power is not really free, but it also is not taxing the engine at very low RPM's like a supercharger would be.
As for that Roots in my pictures above, I think that was more for show than anything else.
I can't remember for sure, seems like he was running 6 or 7 pounds of boost at 5 or 6 thousand RPM.
If you had the gearing right, it would proabably be a step up over a NA engine, BUT.
With the pulley changes to get it right for the lower RPM diesel, I have to wonder how long it would last?
The oil supply is self contained, so I think heat would be an issue.
A turbo does causes higher back pressure in the manifolds, so the power is not really free, but it also is not taxing the engine at very low RPM's like a supercharger would be.
As for that Roots in my pictures above, I think that was more for show than anything else.
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