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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:28 AM
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OK, I had one other thought. My truck was built in late 2002. This was prior to ethanol addition to gasoline (if my memory serves me), prior was MTBE. Ethanol is a lower energy value to gasoline compared to MTBE. Could this throw off the computer since it was based opn a different fuel blend with more energy content per gallon?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bumparker
OK, I had one other thought. My truck was built in late 2002. This was prior to ethanol addition to gasoline (if my memory serves me), prior was MTBE. Ethanol is a lower energy value to gasoline compared to MTBE. Could this throw off the computer since it was based opn a different fuel blend with more energy content per gallon?
Like I said in my first post-fuel blends and driving habits can effect it. The single biggest thing is not resetting the indicator at every fillup, and driving it completely different in that time.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 04markIII
does that mean the sct tuner man can make an adjustment to the tune to correct the readout? i am putting a used engine in this in a few weeks. once it's in, i am gonna run up to the tuner and have him make sure everything in the tune is still all set.

edit: i assume if i got something like a scangauge ii, it would be just as inaccurate as it gets it's info from the obdii port?
If he has access to the right parameters he should be able to. As for the Scanguage-I have no idea,but I would assume that it would be subject to the same scalings as the OEM part.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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If he has access to the right parameters he should be able to. As for the Scanguage-I have no idea,but I would assume that it would be subject to the same scalings as the OEM part.
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what parameters would i ask him to look for? i've seen the tuning screen....there are like a million changes that can be made.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Langton
That's not how the system functions. The distance to empty is the only thing that uses the current fuel level.
What Johnny said.

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That's not how the system functions. The distance to empty is the only thing that uses the current fuel level. The mileage indication uses engine RPM,load,vehicle speed,and the actual fuel injected to determine fuel mileage.
My understanding is that the PCM keeps track of the injector on time and knowing the rating of the injectors (lbs/hr) that's how it keeps track of the amount of fuel used. So it doesn't matter what kind of fuel you are using, or weather it contains ethonal or water, it keeps tract of how much 'stuff' it used.

Now if your injectors are slowly becoming plugged up and not spraying fuel at their rated amount the PCM will increase the injector on time (and up the long-term-fuel-trim) to keep the HO2S happy. In that case the read out would show less mpg than you are actually getting.

And when you manually calculate your fuel mileage to check the accuracy of the overhead readout, take a look at the location of the fuel take fill pipe. It is way at the end of the tank, and IIRC, it does not enter the tank at the highest point. It is almost impossible to fill the tank twice in a row to the exact same level to determine how much fuel you used. Your lucky to get within a gallon or two.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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I think that the Miles to Empty screen is based on previous driving habits, not current. There will be times when I'm driving all highway (long road trips) and the Miles to Empty will read ~385 at full when I start off. When it reaches 50 miles and I go to refuel, it'll take only about 20 gallons to fill up the 28 gallon tank (so no way I only had 50 miles left), and then the new full reading will say 450 miles to empty. I'll then drive a highway / city mix on that tank, get down to 50 miles, and it'll take 25 gallons to fill up the 28 gallon tank.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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Well, I had been resetting the tripmeter every time i filed up and still got the high reading, so I tried disconnecting the negative battery terminal and reconnected about 30 minutes later. now I'm getting readings of 16.4 mpg which is about what I calculated (miles/gallons on fill-up).

I did not notice any change in performance.
 
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