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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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I've never seen a higher mileage 5.0 with OUT the slight miss, FWIW.. Saw three of em just this weekend. Mine had a slight miss with the Autolites and still does with the diamond fires. Hot PIP I think.
uh its not a 5.0. its a beefed up 351W HO. with a cam and ported heads.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 02:08 AM
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My 95 has about 275k on the original drivetrain. I always run Motorcraft or Autolite platinums and it doesn't miss. I have had good luck with the platinum plugs lasting longer. I know most feel that the coppers work better and thats what I usually recommend going with.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasGuy001
My 95 has about 275k on the original drivetrain. I always run Motorcraft or Autolite platinums and it doesn't miss. I have had good luck with the platinum plugs lasting longer. I know most feel that the coppers work better and thats what I usually recommend going with.
I don't like plugs to last a long time. The longer they last, the more likely it is I'll have one stuck in place and break off on me.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nflfreak43
uh its not a 5.0. its a beefed up 351W HO. with a cam and ported heads.
I know it wasn't I was just saying in general. I've seen a lot of these older SBF's with that slight miss at idle.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SaikotikGunman
I don't like plugs to last a long time. The longer they last, the more likely it is I'll have one stuck in place and break off on me.
Good point.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasGuy001
Good point.
I know; I made it!

I oil the threads when I change them, just in case, but I still worry about it.

Which reminds me... I didn't oil the threads when I put plugs in my friend's Firebird that we're rebuilding... Ah well, I was afraid to tighten them in much as it was, I think I started stripping threats turning one in by hand... Silly aluminum heads...
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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I oil the threads when I change them, just in case, but I still worry about it.
I used to spray WD40 on the spark plug threads before installing them, but now I use anti-seize because it is a better choice for this application. It's really good to use on aluminum heads.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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I use OEM. Motorcraft Coppers. Torqued down to spec. No oil on threads, no anti-seize. I don't drive the truck tons of miles so I'll have to decide when I want to swap them out.

Copper is a better electrical conductor than platinum. The only reason platinum is used is cause it's stronger than copper so lasts longer. It is not a better conductor. The car buyers want as few maintenance intervals as possible, which is why platinums were used. I won't use them unless they are what came in the vehicle. IE my Supra came with NGK platinums and that's what it will get.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DreadyDiggs
I use OEM. Motorcraft Coppers. Torqued down to spec. No oil on threads, no anti-seize. I don't drive the truck tons of miles so I'll have to decide when I want to swap them out.

Copper is a better electrical conductor than platinum. The only reason platinum is used is cause it's stronger than copper so lasts longer. It is not a better conductor. The car buyers want as few maintenance intervals as possible, which is why platinums were used. I won't use them unless they are what came in the vehicle. IE my Supra came with NGK platinums and that's what it will get.
There's no appreciable difference between the Motorcraft and the Autolite 25's, and I don't have an inch-pound torque wrench, so I oil and err on the side of caution. With all the heat cycling, they aren't likely to work loose.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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so, I guess I can put this info to good use with an F-350 w/ a 460?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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One thing to think about in regards to platinum, iridium, and copper plugs is theres and inverse relationship between the conductivity of a materail and how long it lasts. Many people think platinum and iridium are better conductors hence making them better. However, this is far from the truth. Copper is actually a FAR BETTER conductor that either of those two materials. Thats also why they have to be replaced every 30k as opposed to those worse conducting materials such as pltinum and iridium that will last 100k. Also, you have to remember that newer cars that recommend platinum plugs can do so because their ignition systems are far more advanced and are capable of supplying the increased voltage to make up for the lack of conductivity provided by copper. So, by putting plats or iridium or similar plugs in your old style ignition system, you are going to experience poor performance. IMO stick with copperplugs in your older vehicle and change them every 30k like youre supposed to.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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I like that. I think you just talked me into copper plugs.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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copper for me too.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SaikotikGunman
There's no appreciable difference between the Motorcraft and the Autolite 25's, and I don't have an inch-pound torque wrench, so I oil and err on the side of caution. With all the heat cycling, they aren't likely to work loose.
The difference is one pack says MotorCraft, the other says Autolite haha.

Oh and the torque spec for my 300 is 15-20 ftlbs. If your spec is in inlbs, divide by 12 to get ftlbs

144 inch lbs is 12 ft lbs.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by boggerted
One thing to think about in regards to platinum, iridium, and copper plugs is theres and inverse relationship between the conductivity of a materail and how long it lasts. Many people think platinum and iridium are better conductors hence making them better. However, this is far from the truth. Copper is actually a FAR BETTER conductor that either of those two materials. Thats also why they have to be replaced every 30k as opposed to those worse conducting materials such as pltinum and iridium that will last 100k. Also, you have to remember that newer cars that recommend platinum plugs can do so because their ignition systems are far more advanced and are capable of supplying the increased voltage to make up for the lack of conductivity provided by copper. So, by putting plats or iridium or similar plugs in your old style ignition system, you are going to experience poor performance. IMO stick with copperplugs in your older vehicle and change them every 30k like youre supposed to.
And copper plugs are cheap. Ten to twelve bucks to do a V8... you can change them cheaper than your oil.
 
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