i have a 1997 f350 psd 4+4 im swaping out my e4od for the zf i hav all the parts i need except the trans crossmember and its obsaleate through the dealer iv been told i can use one out of an early 90s f150 with a 5spd does anyone no

 

i think you can i wish you had a gas engine small block i would buy that e4od from ya

 

yeah me to that e4od is about a month old just put it in and i hate it but hey thanks for the help

 

no problem man

 

What's wrong with the E4od crossmember? :/ Don't like its looks?
What? :)

The one off my Bronco could have been made to work but it wrapped
around the frame and I didn't like it.

http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/e4odCM.jpg

Alvin in AZ
ps- Here's a couple cool pictures...
Out! http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/hoist6a.jpg
In! http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/file12/hoist7m.jpg
...told ya they were cool pictures. ;)

 

i checked the part numbers and there not the same from auto to man i just asumed the auto crossmember wouldnt work the one in my truck is the three piece style wil it work with the man trans set up?

 

The ZF crossmember in my F150 is quite a bit different than the E4OD crossmember I took out.

 

hey alvin you still got that e4od tranny

 

ok thanks i wil make sumthing work but hey do any of u guys have any good ideas on what to do about the nss? id like it to work as intended but i guess i could just cut and splice the wire together

 

The only wiring that goes to the ZF is for the reverse lights. I just replaced my E4OD wiring harness with the ZF harness and the backup lights work fine.

 

im not so much woried about rev lights im concerned that when im dunn the swap its not going to start due to the nss i was just wondering if anyone knew weather or not the nss wire was in the cab of a truck with an auto and just not used

 

Yeah but. ;)
You're right, it doesn't go to the ZF itself but there's the VSS circuit for
the speed control that goes to the trans-end of the speedo-cable. :)

Darthice, yes I do. :/ ...just keep putting off advertising it on Craig's List
because I haven't got the 1356E's wiring fixed yet. ATF messes up wire
insulation looks like, never messed with old "electric automatics" before,
so didn't know that about ATF before. No sweat on the E4od, the vehicle
side of the wiring is messed up but that's all. On the 1356E the wiring
comes out of inside the transfer case. :/

Rene' LOL :), "nss"? :/ Starter cut-out circuit? What?

Jas and Rene'...
Since I've got both a '91 F150 351w+E4OD and a '90 F250 351w+ZF I
could carefully measure them and get back to you. Off hand, thinking
there's something funny about the height and might be a need to drill
new holes where-azz the "right" Ford part will just bolt right into holes
already in the frame. BTDT :)

There's a whoppin' difference in the Bronco's E4OD crossmember from
the ZF's simple crossmember, but that don't mean it can't be made to
work. ;) I didn't want it to hang down under frame like that, if I hadn't
had a parts truck, I would've been looking for a ZF crossmember too! :)

Alvin in AZ

 

neutral safty switch ya no the thing the clutch peadle has to hit before it wil start

 

Ah, ok, cool. :)
No need to cut and splice. :)

Its contact is inside the plastic box surrounding the clutch pushrod.
Ford calls a "Clutch Interlock Switch" on a manual equipt vehicle. ;)

The clutch interlock switch's wire-plug is wired into the harness and
when it's equipt with an automatic (E4OD at least) Ford plugs a block
into the CIS's plug which jumpers all three circuits.

I left the "block" in place so all three circuits are jumper-ed on mine. :)
YMMV on whether you want to do it that way on yours or not. ;)

My '75 I got in Feb of '75 didn't have a "clutch cut-out" and I never
needed one either, but have used it to my benefit a couple times. ;)
(long stories)

The Sears/Dana speed control I installed in about '76 never had a clutch
cut-out either, so I'm used to it being that way. YMMV on that one too. ;)

Alvin in AZ
ps- here's a short story on my use with something besides my '75...
During "switch inspection" several guys in pickups (the Roadmaster
and gandy-dancer in a motorcar) would race from one switch to the
next. :) ...race so not to have to eat so dangged much dust.

"how you get going so dangged quick PeeWee? :)"
"I leave it in 1st and just turn the key and GAS it! :D"

He was a little pissed when I started beatin' 'im on
the get-aways right after that. LOL :)
(Peewee is Glen Duncan, how's it hangin' Peewee? :)

 

Im getting ready to do this swap on my truck. I have a 95 F250 ex cab 8' bed 4X4 with an E40d. My parts truck is a 93 F250 4X4 with the Zf. I know the crossmembers are different you can tell just by lookin at them. As far as your truck goes IM thinking the NSS (neutral safety switch) wont matter as long as you leave your shift lever in park or neutral. Any way my question is will an E40d transfer case bolt on to a ZF 5spd. The transfercase on the zf got damaged. any other info would be great.