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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 11:44 PM
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Help! I got a gremlin.

My truck won't start. In the last year I've replaced batteries, GP's, Injectors, and return lines. I got in it a month or so ago and it just went "CLICK" when I turned the key. I tried a couple of more times, got discouraged and quit. This weekend I replaced the battery cables. It turned over. I cranked it for 30-40 seconds. then waited. turned it over again for 30-40 seconds. Then waited. The third time it just went "CLICK". Is it time for a starter? I don't know what else to do. I'm dragging my feet on the starter. I just don't wanna do it. WWWWWAAAAAAAA. Thanks, Guys.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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Well cranking on it for 30 to 40 seconds at a time it will be shortly if it isn't now. If you have good juice to it and it clicks, the selonoid is ba d or getting that way.

How fast was it cranking.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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It sounded like it was spinning faster. We have owned this truck for 10 yrs. and have never heard of the 20 second rule before. I know it's been held on for alot longer than that. I guess I'll just get a starter and be done with it.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 12:56 AM
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you may want to look into fuel delivery too.everything sounds new,but no mention of a new fuel pump.
if you have good compression,and all those other things are new,you may not be getting fuel.30 seconds is way to long at any temp.
above zero degrees,5 seconds max with 10-15 sec glow time,and mines running not plugged in.
im just saying,if the new starter doesn't get you going quick,you want to find out what it is,before you burn the next one up.

take star's advice and have the solenoid tested first though.
if doesn't spin over REALLY fast (almost sounds like its running type fast.) then yeah,with new bats & cables,it may be weak.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 01:11 AM
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I agree that there still is a fuel problem. But I gotta start somewhere.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Did you notice any smoke out of the exhaust?

After it turns over a couple times, you should start seeing white smoke out of the exhaust if it don't start.

If you don't see white smoke, then I would take a look at something fuel related.

Next time you go to start it, dropping the fuel filter off and see if it is completely full of fuel might be a good place to start without spending any money.

If it is not full, then you have an air problem.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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dave, Currently the truck wont turn over. I just get a click. Thats why I'm thinking its a starter. Once I do that, I'll be starting on the fuel issue again. I plan on doing a new filter.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Inspect the positive battery cable where it attaches to teh passenger side battery.

Does it look like it has been hot?

Brittle or discolored insulation on the cable, green looking conductor in the cable, swollen insulation on the cable close to the clamp are all signs of internal cable corrosion inside the battery terminal clamp.

Three wires connect in that clamp, drivers side battery lead, power wire to the truck electrics including the alternator and the wire down to the starter.
If all three of them are not making a good connection, it will not start.

Also if you have been cranking the starter for more than 20 seconds, you most likely need a new starter.

20 seconds is the max cranking time, and then you must let the starter cool for 2 minutes before you crank it again.
Most of the starters are 3.6 kw starters, 300 amps at 12 volts, which makes a lot of heat.
Extended cranking will toast a starter real quick.

Also you have a solenoid on the starter, and a relay mounted on the fender, both must be working for the starter to crank.

Battery cables, and engine connections for all of the cables must be clean and making good connections.

Two batteries, with at least 850 CCA in good shape are also required.
 
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