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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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As I recall about 5400 to 5500 RPM stock.

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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fordmodela
I took some numbers off the old 302 Engine

Head 369 WF 351

Engine D4DE 6015 AA 3C18

Does this mean the manifold and the distributor are 351 as well?
The heads could have originally been for a 351 since both motors take the same heads, but that's not the casting number it's on the head gasket side near one of the center intake ports.

D4 on the block means it's at least a '74 motor, but no the intake and distributor are 302 specific and will not transfer from the physically larger 351.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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Thanks, I will look for it there.

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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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A little info for you:

Your original engine block casting number decoded:
D4=1974
D=Maverick/Granada (actually anything that used a 302)
E=Engine
AA=2nd revision of the original core
3C18=casting poured 3/18/73
Most definitely a 302 car/truck/industrial/marine engine

Now, some thoughts for your new engine:
  • GT40P heads are excellent for marine use.
  • Explorer cam should be perfect for marine use. You want strong mid-range torque in the 3,000 to 3,500 rpm range for cruise and good power up to about 4,600 to 4,800 rpm WOT.
  • If you are using this in anything other than fresh water, install brass freeze plugs in the block and heads or install fresh water cooling system $$$.
  • In my opinion, fuel injection is way too complicated for a boat. You will need to install a fuel cooler or a fuel return to the tank. The marine distributor and ecu for the marine engines (OMC Cobra and Volvo) are hard to find and expensive as can be. I would use a carburetor like all of the ski boats do that use the small block Ford engine. If you operate in salt water, use a production Ford 4V cast iron manifold from a 289-302 non-egr engine. Your original manifold and carb should work fine if it was a 4 barrel. If not, you can generally find these on ebay pretty easily. If in fresh water, you can use an Edlebrock Performer 2121 or a Weiand Action +Plus 8124. Use a Holly 450CFM marine carb PART #: 0-80364 which is made specifically for the 302 Ford marine engine. Make sure you use the a PCV carb spacer, again, ebay is a good source for these.
  • Use a Mallory 512CV marine distributor set at 10 degrees BTDC. You might want to use a Pertronix Ignitor II and Flamethrower II coil to get the best ignition performance. Open the spark gap to 0.040" with that coil. If you use the roller cam, BE SURE TO INSTALL THE STEEL DISTRIBUTOR DRIVE GEAR on your distributor. Use the firing order for the new engine.
  • Use a Barr Marine center-rise exhaust system with 4" risers. These are a good match for the heads and your Volvo drive.
  • Make absolutely certain you use a marine fuel pump, alternator and starter/solenoid to prevent any risk of explosion. These should be usable from your old engine.
  • Use your old cast iron timing cover with a new marine water pump.
  • Use a new raw water pump, or at least a new impeller.
  • Finally, the new engine is a 50 oz. externally balanced so you will need a late 157-tooth flywheel, Ford Racing M-6375-B302. Your new harmonic balancer should already be 50 oz. You may need to play with the crankshaft pulley and belt alignment I think there was a 3-hole vs. 4-hole pulley, but that shouldn't be too difficult.
That is about all I can think of. I'm sure there is more, but that is all that comes to mind from the last time I did this. Stay away from any radical cams so that you can shift smoothly and idle in gear at 500-600 rpm, otherwise docking can be a pain.

With the Edelbrock or Weiand intakes, my hallucination is that you should make around 250shp at 4,800rpm and have a completely reliable rig.

Have fun!

Larry
 

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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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you may run into a problem with exhaust manifolds as i believe the gt40p heads have a different exhaust port bolt pattern to accommodate a different plug angle
 
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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I don't think the P heads will be a problem with most marine manifolds which sweep up and away from the plugs. For cars and trucks, I know this can be a problem though.

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