THE 2.3 BLUES....
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Tuned
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THE 2.3 BLUES....
OK, so ive been playin with this motor tryin to get it running. the cam timing is right. I have the crank at TC and the cam at the marks on the piece behind the timing cover. im getting fuel, turn the key on, and pump turns on. I know its dangerous, but id pull the plugs, have my wife crank the motor, and fire would come out of the holes. but now ive noticed one of the coil packs isnt getting power. im not sure if the crankshaft positioning sensor is good or notand it looks difficult to replace. should that be my next step? ive spent quite a bit of money so ar and im in desperate need to get this truck going. any ideas to help me out????
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I later learned that the coil pack was ok, i found that the coil for the driverside plugs dosnt turn on till the motor is running. i did a cmompression test, and found zero compression on the #4 cylinder. not sure if its a valve or rings or what, so im gonna replace the whole motor. id rather know the motor is good, than question how long it will last.
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I later learned that the coil pack was ok, i found that the coil for the driverside plugs dosnt turn on till the motor is running. i did a cmompression test, and found zero compression on the #4 cylinder. not sure if its a valve or rings or what, so im gonna replace the whole motor. id rather know the motor is good, than question how long it will last.
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ok, so i probably look like a big F@%king idiot right now, but i pulled the valve cover, and found 2 exhaust rocker arms had fallen off, and the #4 intake rocker arm had fallen off and wedged between the spring and the camshaft support. All 8 rocker arms are missing their "retainer springs" so i am now on the hunt for new retainer springs, and im gonna cross my fingers that the lobes on the cam are ok, all the valves and springs seem to be compressing and decompressing fine without any slack. i dont see and evidence of the vales binding, but tommorow, im gonna have my wife crank the motor so i can see if the "camshaft lube tubes" are still working, and to make sure the rockers dont want to jump around anymore. 
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Welcome to "ENGINE 101"
It sounds like every bit of it needs looking at to make sure it's right....
But you have the right engine there for a long legged road runner.
DON'T EVER SELL IT!
"You have now entered the TWILIGHT ZONE! Next stop: VALVE ADJUSTMENT...."
Oddly enough though - I thought that was all hydraulic with no need of adjusting.
It sounds like every bit of it needs looking at to make sure it's right....
But you have the right engine there for a long legged road runner.
DON'T EVER SELL IT!
"You have now entered the TWILIGHT ZONE! Next stop: VALVE ADJUSTMENT...."
Oddly enough though - I thought that was all hydraulic with no need of adjusting.
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it has hydraulic lifters with roller rockers. to my eye, there is no way to adjust them... im gonna post some pictures as soon as i can, cause now im having a hell of a time finding the rocker arm keeper springs... im wondering if my truck even came with them....
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Dude I don't know where you lucked into a deal like that but I would go for it, and with the money from selling the other parts you could probably rebuild your original 2.3 and have a spare motor or slowly build it into a performance motor as a project. Although being a 2.3 it's not exactly a motor for building unless you turbo it, but I always enjoy seeing the little motors beefed up a bit.
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Dude I don't know where you lucked into a deal like that but I would go for it, and with the money from selling the other parts you could probably rebuild your original 2.3 and have a spare motor or slowly build it into a performance motor as a project. Although being a 2.3 it's not exactly a motor for building unless you turbo it, but I always enjoy seeing the little motors beefed up a bit.
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whitefordexplorer: I see you're from Beaumont. Did you buy your truck from Ramsey Street Ford in Banning? Too bad they went out of business.
*You might find what you need at the online classifieds for the Coachella Valley/Pass Area. www.SuperDesert.com
Good luck!
*You might find what you need at the online classifieds for the Coachella Valley/Pass Area. www.SuperDesert.com
Good luck!
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ok, so i probably look like a big F@%king idiot right now, but i pulled the valve cover, and found 2 exhaust rocker arms had fallen off, and the #4 intake rocker arm had fallen off and wedged between the spring and the camshaft support. All 8 rocker arms are missing their "retainer springs" so i am now on the hunt for new retainer springs, and im gonna cross my fingers that the lobes on the cam are ok, all the valves and springs seem to be compressing and decompressing fine without any slack. i dont see and evidence of the vales binding, but tommorow, im gonna have my wife crank the motor so i can see if the "camshaft lube tubes" are still working, and to make sure the rockers dont want to jump around anymore.
Had someone been in there messing around with the top end????
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whitefordexplorer: I see you're from Beaumont. Did you buy your truck from Ramsey Street Ford in Banning? Too bad they went out of business.
*You might find what you need at the online classifieds for the Coachella Valley/Pass Area. www.SuperDesert.com
Good luck!
*You might find what you need at the online classifieds for the Coachella Valley/Pass Area. www.SuperDesert.com
Good luck!
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