VIN on dash?
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From: horton, ks
that sticker on the door jamb is your federal id tag. the actual vin plate is riveted on the drivers door around the door latch area. if i remember right they didnt start to put the vin plates in the dash till 80 on the newer body style.
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From: Stanley, VA
Actually, the plate on the door is called the warranty plate. When it comes to VIN and registration/title issues this plate has NO legal standing. It does have the VIN number on it but doors are too easy to change (this comes up on the Forum all the time).
The actual LEGAL VIN is stamped on the frame in two places, one visible (top right frame rail about inline with the alternator, and one hidden (again top right frame rail about six inches behind the front cab mount.
Dash mounted VINs weren't required untill the 80's. No dentside has a dash mounted VIN.
The actual LEGAL VIN is stamped on the frame in two places, one visible (top right frame rail about inline with the alternator, and one hidden (again top right frame rail about six inches behind the front cab mount.
Dash mounted VINs weren't required untill the 80's. No dentside has a dash mounted VIN.
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From: horton, ks
not where i live it isnt. if the plate is missing and all you have is the federal sticker, you have to look on the frame for the VIN to get a title. i just went through this on my 76 3/4 ton lol. might be different down there though. state trooper said i was lucky i found the vin on the frame the day he inspected or he could have impounded the truck since it was missing the plate on the door. stupid kansas laws.
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Actually, Mike is correct. The State trooper is wrong. The VIN on these trucks is on the frame. If the trooper has heartburn over this tell him he need to contact the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB) and they can provide him with the correct information. Do a search, we explained this numerous times. Kansas Law cannot supersede Federal Law.
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I'm having a hard time finding mine on my frame rails. Can somebody post a pic? Time to get the drill and the wire wheel attachment I see. Thanks.
Also, is there a website that shows to decode the door tag on these things? I'm having a hard time finding one. Thanks again.
Also, is there a website that shows to decode the door tag on these things? I'm having a hard time finding one. Thanks again.
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From: Stanley, VA
Here are two pictures of the VINs on the frame. The first is the "public" number, the second is the hidden VIN.
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From: Stanley, VA
I'm having a hard time finding mine on my frame rails. Can somebody post a pic? Time to get the drill and the wire wheel attachment I see. Thanks.
Also, is there a website that shows to decode the door tag on these things? I'm having a hard time finding one. Thanks again.
Also, is there a website that shows to decode the door tag on these things? I'm having a hard time finding one. Thanks again.
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From: Stanley, VA
Wow! That is a little confusing!
Those numbers aren't making much sense.
Click on the .pdf file and you will see what a warranty plate normally looks like and also how it is laid out.
I can identify the VIN and also the wheelbase (133") but the other codes are, as I said, confusing.
I'll see if I can make some sense of it and let you know.
Those numbers aren't making much sense.
Click on the .pdf file and you will see what a warranty plate normally looks like and also how it is laid out.
I can identify the VIN and also the wheelbase (133") but the other codes are, as I said, confusing.
I'll see if I can make some sense of it and let you know.
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From: Boyne Mich
That's not what our Constitution states. California does all the time.
Our country is the United States of America not simply America.
The federal goverment needs to be right sized.
Sorry HP246 I mean no offense, I"ll get down off the box
Shawn
Our country is the United States of America not simply America.
The federal goverment needs to be right sized.
Sorry HP246 I mean no offense, I"ll get down off the box
Shawn
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From: western ks
Hey 82 ford, you say a KS Trooper threatened to sieze your truck if you couldnt find the frame vin ??? do you remember his name?....they just keep employing these STUPID kids....Its not stupid laws, its these over educated geeks that dont understand the law....I really would be interested in knowing who that was, if you dont want to post it send me an email radar457@havilandtelco.com
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From: horton, ks
i dont remember what his name was. he was about 5-7 yrs older than me maybe and im 30. he was really blunt about it and said it with ease like he knew what he was talking about. i'll have to look through the pile of papers tomorrow to find the copy of the inspection.