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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 12:59 AM
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Turbo 5.4L?

Has anyone seen one or heard of one? Is it possible to do it? I guess with deep pockets anything is possible, but just wondering if anyone has ever done it before.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 01:04 AM
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It is much more common to see one supercharged, using a roots style or whipple style supercharger. I recommend going this way if you want forced induction.

Speaking in general terms, a turbo'd 5.4L in a Super Duty probably wouldn't work well. You want more power on the low end of the torque curve. Superchargers will do that for you. Turbo's tend to increase power on the opposite end of the power band.

There are enough companies making kits for Mustangs and F-150s (4.6L and 5.4L) that you should be able to adapt one fairly easily to an F-250. You might have to also include a custom tune to handle the transmission, but you'd probably want that anyway.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 01:16 AM
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Yeah I figured supercharger is the way to go. I was just curious if anyone has seen one or heard of one and what type of performance it did.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 06:56 AM
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Yeah I figured supercharger is the way to go. I was just curious if anyone has seen one or heard of one and what type of performance it did.
I've seen one done, but it was done with racing in mind though.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by redford
. Turbo's tend to increase power on the opposite end of the power band.
Only if it's designed with compressor/turbine wheels and housings for high-rpm racing in mind. It's quite easy to size a turbocharger that will give just off-idle power and torque and be at full boost right before the rpm limits of the engine.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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My buddies 05 F-150 with the 5.4 had a Vortech charger on it. With cobra injectors and Tuning from Jody at DP tuner He made 357 HP and 427 Ftlbs. That little truck would scoot.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 07:50 AM
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57 hp, for 5K in upgrades. hmmmm. Not worth it to me.....
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishin76
57 hp, for 5K in upgrades. hmmmm. Not worth it to me.....

One of the best things about diesel compared to a gasser is that turbos cost less and gain a whole lot more, but I'm going off topic here. Carry on.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishin76
57 hp, for 5K in upgrades. hmmmm. Not worth it to me.....
That would be 57 REAR WHEEL HP, and around 70ft-lbs.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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A guy that lived across from my mom had a f150 excab 4x4 with the 5.4 he did the tuning on his laptop and got it to like 505hp and 495lbs tq. it was right at the 500 mark tq and hp. It would out run most of the lightnings around here and cameros. Even took a few vettes. He built the kit him self and it did run pretty good. He bought a bumper pull trailer and sold the truck and got a 06 f250 psd.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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57 hp, for 5K in upgrades. hmmmm. Not worth it to me.....
Hmmmm I don't think you understand. He made those number at the rear wheels which means he probably gain over 120 hp and 150lbs of tq. I think spending 5k for that is worth it.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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yea its worth 5k to get it at the wheels, when i hit the lottery im putting one on the 350
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jac08f250
Hmmmm I don't think you understand. He made those number at the rear wheels which means he probably gain over 120 hp and 150lbs of tq. I think spending 5k for that is worth it.
Not to mention the parasitic loss of that Supercharger-that can be as much as 100hp depending on boost levels,RPM and compressor size/type-losses that a turbocharger does not have sine it's driven off of wasted heat energy from the exhaust.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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Yeah, a turbo is more efficient overall, since it is powered by waste energy. It does bog the engine down a little bit. The trick is to get a turbo that spools quickly. For this type of project you actually need twin turbos. One off each manifold. More costly, but turbos need to be up close by the manifold, but since you need cats on each bank, there would be too many complications to have a single larger turbo. Twin turbos will typically spool faster.

It would be a big project, expect to spend several grand. You will also want an intercooler. However, the results would be very quick and it would tow well. One thing you should take into account with either a turbo or supercharger, is that the trans is not intended to take that kind of power, so you may want to look into some modest upgrades in the transmission namely a tougher torque converter, and a shift kit.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Sts makes a nice kit. It is a remote mount. It is said that there is little lag and since the turbo is farther away a ic is not needed. Biggest thing though is to watch how much compression you have. Might lead to a new engine if you get to crazy.
 
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