Anyone run their F150 with this fuel and have any solid personal feedback? I've read a bunch of pros and cons but would appreciate feedback from those with true experiences.

 

lower gas mileage....need more frequent oil changes....

more power....

I used to.....but no longer run e85....it just wasn't worth it

 

It maybe in my head but my truck seems to sluggish with E85 plus just a bit lower MPGs. I try to stay away from it. Again I ask the question "Which is greener? A truck that burns clean but gets lower MPGs hence needing more fuel/gas to go 100 miles or the truck that burns a little dirtier but much better MPGs and uses much less fuel/gas". Sometimes I think it's a plot promoted by the oil companies to make use more of their product with the EPA as co-conspirators.Studies have shown that methane does much more damage than carbon (both adding to "Global Warming"). Just think of all that cattle out there farting us into climate change, that's why I raise sheep, they fart smaller. I remember my first Dodge Cummins in 1994, it got 22MPG no matter what I did. My last one in 2007 had trouble getting 15MPG and had problems pulling at times. This may support an answer to my question. When I was looking for a new truck in 2009, I found that the Cummins was getting even less MPGs because of the EPA stuff added. Where the Ford F-150 did what I needed plus gave me a fair MPG return overall. And the MPGs are getting better as the milage starts racking up. This was not a political statement just a passing thought. Chris

 

Was just exciting to see a local station start offering the stuff and so much cheaper than gasoline. I'll stick to petro it seems.

 

Now around here in Maryland, the E85 is only about 2 to 4 cents cheaper then regular and the stations do not tout that they have it, other then a small sticker on the pump. I guess they want to make all the money. Chris

 

Sixty cents difference here!

 

The lower mpg isn't in your head......but the sluggish part is.....the trucks actually make a bit more power with e85......

 

Does this mean it burns hotter then regular gas and does it do harm to engine in the long run? Please keep in mind this is the first gasser I have owned in a very long time. I know diesels much better. Chris

 

I know with biodiesel if you get custom tunes to where they know you are burning biodiesel the tuners are able to tweak the parameters in order to increase efficiency(mpg) when using biodiesel.

I don't know if that applies to the gas burners or not as I haven't tried running E85 in this truck yet, however, I would imagine that the same logic applies here. I'm willing to bet the only thing that ford really did to make it fully compatible with E85 is the plumbing to handle it. I don't really think they have changed the PCM accordingly or if they did, they compromised in case you were running plain dino fuel as well.

It is a different fuel as far as characteristics of that fuel go, if you have a custom tuner(device) try to see about getting some tunes written for E85 use and then see what that does for you.

 

The whole "cattle are depleting the ozone" line is entirely crap probably made up by vegetarian liberals... My sister actually did a study on this in college as an agricutural major... A pregnant woman (human being) actually produces more methane gas in the term of one pregnancy than a cow does in it's entire lifespan. I get so mad when I hear people passing along this fallacy because I spen my entire childhood on a cattle ranch and when that "tall tail" came out it really hurt ranchers. I no longer raise cattle but follow the industry of and on and hope to retire back into it someday. Rant over.

 

There is another fallacy that is promoted within the beef cattle industry. Ask someone what it means when the see "100% Certified Angus Beef" and 9 out of 10 times they'll say that it's a healthier choice of beef. Always cracks me up when they say that.

 

Don't make that bet.....as you'd lose. Theres a sensor in the fuel tank that determines what percentage of ethanol you have in your tank at any given time and adjusts the pcm accordingly.....it basically adjusts timing and other parameters as E85 has a much higher octane rating....

 

Just the thought that we (people) and our livestock would have any negligible effect on the planet and it's cycles is funny. The earth will heat up and cool as it feels like doing, we forget that we are just little fleas to Mother Earth. It is proven that the Earth releases much more methane then any of us and our livestock, the release levels will rise and fall. We may be in a higher release cycle hence the one+ degree warmer at this time. But back to fuel/gas. Is the burn hotter with E85? I would think it would be if it has alcohol in it. I wonder if my truck could get a DUI? Chris

 

I replied before reading your post. I think you have answered my question. if there is a sensor one could assume that engine timing deals with the higher temps, making it safe to run on E85. Thanks Chris

 

The engines are designed to run on ethanol, so it won't damage anything.