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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 10:50 PM
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as I stated you check signal return and vref at the ebp they are shared if at the ebp connecter sig reture and vref pins test as if they are shorted together then I would suspect the icp and connector as fault, when vref and or sig return shorts you well have a nostart or intermit nostart.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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So in plain english: Pull the ebp sensor connector, and check for a short or no voltage on one of the pins with KOEO and that will tell me if the ICP is bad....correct?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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check for short between pins with grey/red wire and brown/white wire. if the pins are shorted together then vref is shorted to sig return would be suspect.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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Ok got it, I'll check that out and see what happens...
 
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Old Mar 14, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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hey I forgot one thing when doing this no need to have the key off and the pcm connector diconnected to check.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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I'm not sure if I did it right or not, but here's what happened...

I had the KOEO, tested the EBP for voltage, and got nothing....

HOWEVER, using the datalogging feature on my SCT (KOEC), it showed the ICP putting out atleast 1.00 (sometimes as high as 1.30) while cranking.

As if that wasn't weird enough, I go looking for the ICP sensor according to William_04_X's pics and it doesn't seem to be there...
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-icp-swap.html

I see what appears to be the harness that goes to it, but I see no ICP sensor connector.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the ICP not within milimeters of the IPR? I.e. if you're able to touch the IPR connector and the IPR itself, you should be able to atleast see or touch the ICP sensor....right?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Didn't they move it from the back driver to the passenger side sometime in late 03 MY?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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ICP should be putting out about 1.2 volts(constant), i just had mine go bad recently, my bad ICP was only putting out .82 volts, i had rough running, but my truck didnt shut off.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 03-6L-X
Didn't they move it from the back driver to the passenger side sometime in late 03 MY?

If the ICP isnt on the driver side, its on the passengers side closest to the front bumper, its hard to miss it. Also alot easier then changing it on the drivers side
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 03-6L-X
Didn't they move it from the back driver to the passenger side sometime in late 03 MY?
The 2004.5 engines have it on the passengerside valve cover. The 2003 and early 2004 engines have it under the turbo.

Still quite lost on this one, any other suggestions?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 04:27 AM
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Don't know a whole lot but last year my 03 sd 6.0 had pretty much same issue. Only start cold and run like hell when warm. It was giving an injector code when I had it downloaded. Long story short fuel injector was bad not keeping oil pressure to one injector will cause a no start. Appearently oil was thick enough cold to trigger pressure sensor to bad injector.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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I'm not one to count my chickens before they hatch, but we've made some good headway and it's looking like it's the ICP sensor...

As soon as we were able to get the sensor off, we found that the sensor had ruptured and was covered in oil. The wiring had also been covered in oil, so we're having to redo that too.

ICP-$150
New Harness- a shocking $95

Should be done with it today, just gotta find out when they're ready...
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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thats gonna fix the issue. common on the early build trucks.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Replaced the ICP re-did the pigtail, wires were checked by two different people, and STILL NO START!!!!!!

Checked the FICM, good voltage...

Did the oil filter test where you push each plunger down with the key on and the oil filter bowl filled, but filled slowly.

Same with the fuel filter up top, pulled the filter, had someone turn the key on, and it too filled like it should.

Starting to think it's the hpop, but whatelse can I do?!?!?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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if the base oil pressure was slow to fill you may try a gauge and see what base pressure really is.
do you have a way to moniter data... if so check icp pressure, sync and ficmsync.
 
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