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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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My 17yr old needs help

My son has spent two years building his 1988 F150 2wd shortbox and now proudly has it on the road. We are trying to find the front end alignment specs and don't have a year specific fsm. Can anyone help?
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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I am hoping someone can post the specs here as we are now taking on doing this ourselves, as maybe others will. On this project he started with a bare frame, done serious rust repair on a homemade cab rotisserie, all his own bodywork paint and wiring, rebuilt the posi diff, been inside the auto, etc so why not this! This came about after not taking the $60 quote from the local frame shop at face value. After insisting on camber bush prices was told $280. Turns out all the local shops here quote an inspection price when you ask for an alignment. To actually touch anything is $100hr plus parts at 140% markup from what they/ I pay.
These are poor front ends for tire wear at best and a very simple adjustment with the upper bush system so we are making up a jig to hold a machinist level at right angle to the wheel, on a level floor. I bet it's comes out closer than the pro that doesn't care.
Now if we just had the specs.....
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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have you tried talking to the dealer parts department they may be able to help they are usually help full to me with out getting sending me to the service side but them him being a certified mechanic that doesn't want the shop headache may help although if i find anything in my travles ill post them for you
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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That's a great idea. Problem is when I did that I was met with the dealer saying that their manuals go back to only 95. I live in a city of .5mill too.


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have you tried talking to the dealer parts department they may be able to help they are usually help full to me with out getting sending me to the service side but them him being a certified mechanic that doesn't want the shop headache may help although if i find anything in my travles ill post them for you
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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The Ford dealership, for the most part, is extremely useless for anything to do with older vehicles. Even the people working there dont know about them. I will see if I can get the specs from a friend of mine who works at a Ford trucks dealership and drives one of these model year vehicles. I have a 1988 F-150 also so it wont be hard to remember.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Thanks!
I'd love to post a pix of my son's truck but it looks like I don't have permissions.

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The Ford dealership, for the most part, is extremely useless for anything to do with older vehicles. Even the people working there dont know about them. I will see if I can get the specs from a friend of mine who works at a Ford trucks dealership and drives one of these model year vehicles. I have a 1988 F-150 also so it wont be hard to remember.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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call a front end alignment shop.
 
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Ok, sorry. I work 13 hour days. Here are the specs.

(in degrees, not sure how to convert it)

Left Front
-Camber -1.0* .04*
-Caster 5.2* 7.2*
-Toe -0.10* 0.16*

Right Front
-Camber -1.0* 0.4*
-Caster -5.7* 7.7*
-Toe -0.10* 0.16*


Total Front
- Cross Camber -0.7* 0.7*
-Cross Caster 1.2* 0.2*
-Total Toe -0.19* 0.31*


Hope this helps!!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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You just put a big smile on our faces. Thank you sir!

Originally Posted by Volvo92906
Ok, sorry. I work 13 hour days. Here are the specs.

(in degrees, not sure how to convert it)

Left Front
-Camber -1.0* .04*
-Caster 5.2* 7.2*
-Toe -0.10* 0.16*

Right Front
-Camber -1.0* 0.4*
-Caster -5.7* 7.7*
-Toe -0.10* 0.16*


Total Front
- Cross Camber -0.7* 0.7*
-Cross Caster 1.2* 0.2*
-Total Toe -0.19* 0.31*


Hope this helps!!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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We are now trying to convert these specs to info we can apply. The camber looks obvious as it is a relative angle across the wheel to the horizontal. I am surprised our 1991 fsm lists it as .25 average camber and .35" toe-in. I assume I have apples and oranges units here.
What we would like is an angle the wheel leans per side and a toe-in measurement we understand. I was thinking long straightedges across the outer sidewalls to a combined angle spec. Anyone out there able to convert these specs or are they already applicable ?
 
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