Need advice on SAS
Need advice on SAS
I have found a new junkyard with really good prices and a few 80-86 trucks and Broncos in it so I'm thinking about doing the SAS in my 84 but have a few questions.
1) which front axle is the best to use and which trucks/broncos have it? How can I tell what axle each truck has?
2) how do I order a lift kit for the truck after it has two different year axles in it?
3) should I wait to find a 1 ton front axle or is something like a dana 44 strong enough?
4) do the straight front axles match width's with my 9 inch rear?
I'm not going to have more than a 38" tire on the truck and I doubt I'll ever go rock crawling but I want to be able to run a locker up front and don't want to be limited by a weak IFS axle. The truck will be mostly for hunting and playing in the mud (I will climb a hill or ford a river if given a chance though) Thanks for your help on deciding which way to go, hopefully the weather will change and I can get back to work on her soon.
1) which front axle is the best to use and which trucks/broncos have it? How can I tell what axle each truck has?
2) how do I order a lift kit for the truck after it has two different year axles in it?
3) should I wait to find a 1 ton front axle or is something like a dana 44 strong enough?
4) do the straight front axles match width's with my 9 inch rear?
I'm not going to have more than a 38" tire on the truck and I doubt I'll ever go rock crawling but I want to be able to run a locker up front and don't want to be limited by a weak IFS axle. The truck will be mostly for hunting and playing in the mud (I will climb a hill or ford a river if given a chance though) Thanks for your help on deciding which way to go, hopefully the weather will change and I can get back to work on her soon.
I'm guessing you have either an '84 F150 or Bronco....
1. best axle for you to use is a 78-79 dana 44 from a 1978-79 F150 or bronco.
2. Order a lift kit for a 78-79 F150 or bronco.
3.Unless you want to do some custom fab work to either convert your half ton to a leafsprung front or convert a dana 60 to a coil spring setup, the coil sprung dana 44 will be an easy swap and will be plenty strong.
4. yes the solid 44 will match your 9 inch's width.
1. best axle for you to use is a 78-79 dana 44 from a 1978-79 F150 or bronco.
2. Order a lift kit for a 78-79 F150 or bronco.
3.Unless you want to do some custom fab work to either convert your half ton to a leafsprung front or convert a dana 60 to a coil spring setup, the coil sprung dana 44 will be an easy swap and will be plenty strong.
4. yes the solid 44 will match your 9 inch's width.
Is the 79-down dana 44 straight axle that much stronger than a Dana 44 TTB? I will have to concede on possibly better tire wear on the straight axle, but I am wondering if it's worth it in the strength department.
The proper IFS is so easy to just bolt in. The 79-down will not bolt in without fabbing or a kit some places sell. I haven't researched what is involved in the kit or how much it costs.
The proper IFS is so easy to just bolt in. The 79-down will not bolt in without fabbing or a kit some places sell. I haven't researched what is involved in the kit or how much it costs.
I really don't know. I was told that if I wanted to run bigger than 35" tires or have a locker in the front end that I need to go with the straight axle because the IFS wouldn't hold up to the strain. I'm not going to get crazy but I'll end up with 350-400 horses, a locker at both ends, and 37 or 38" tires but I don't want to be stuck in the woods with a busted axle.
I have a dana 44ttb ifs in front of my 89. It has the diesel engine, 4.10's with a 4 inch lift and 35's, and I plow snow with it. It hasn't broken yet.
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I know that a TTB Dana 44 will withstand anything with 31x10.50's from experience, lol, but that's not saying much. Mine is just spinning in mud, Franklin has a much better example. If you are going to do it, go all out on a Dana 60.
??? He has a f150. The frame is different on the front compared to a f250, and he will have 16 inch 8 lug wheels on the front and 15 inch 5 lug rims in the rear.
Oh, well, if he already has an F150 with a D44 TTB, then I see NO point in going to a D44 SAS. It's not going to be anything over 5% stronger in the most extreme conditions.
You will end up with needing less front end alignments, though, lol. But TTB handles great on-road, and I think it does better off road.. just my opinion on the handling on and off road.
You will end up with needing less front end alignments, though, lol. But TTB handles great on-road, and I think it does better off road.. just my opinion on the handling on and off road.
A solid axle is a real cheap lift compared to a TTB, as there are no center pivot points and camber issues to deal with.
I suggest that the OP goes looking in the offroad forum for a guy called 75F350, and look for his thread on how he swapped leaf springs and a dana 60 under the front of his bronco. As for the different wheels thing, he could very easily put a 10.25 out back and do 'er right with full one tons.
I suggest that the OP goes looking in the offroad forum for a guy called 75F350, and look for his thread on how he swapped leaf springs and a dana 60 under the front of his bronco. As for the different wheels thing, he could very easily put a 10.25 out back and do 'er right with full one tons.








