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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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newb glow plug question

I have a friend that owns a dodge diesel and he says instead of glow plugs he has some sort of heater on his intake that heats the air for starting. So i was wondering if there has been a swap done or is there a swap to get rid of glow plugs to have this?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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someone has to know a answer to this
 
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You will always have your GP's. On the Cummins, I think there is way more to it than just heating the intake air. Not sure though. The amount of electrical current to warm just the air on the intake air would be tremendous. Could you imagine that heater element size and wire and batteries to warm that engine up in the dead of winter? At an instant you turn the key?

Never heard anyone talk about alternate methods instead of the GP's.
Don't really need them if it is always warm. Say MIAMI.
 
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No glowplugs on Cummins. Here's a good heater grid writeup (actually its for troubleshooting).

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This is a nice write up.. Thanks for sharing it. It was interesting reading how they do it.. two 95 amp heaters. Wowa.. 190 amps.. Still, i think that there has to be more to it. Do they have fuel warming on top of that? Glow plugs seem more efficient.

My snow plow runs about 60amps on my jeep and i can raise it in about 3 or 4 seconds..3 x's of that and my battery is dead and jeep won't start.. I can see why we need two batteries for our trucks.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 06:25 AM
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that just sounds so much better than taking our valve covers off and all that to replace glow plugs. The reason i ask this is cuz i have a glow plug code and if there was a way to put this on i would do that.

I dont have the chance to just be in miami(i would if i could). I am stationed in norfolk and family rochester. so the winter is cold and even colder when i visit family.
 
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190 amps is the same as what our glow plug system uses if all glow plugs are working.


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Originally Posted by draven83
that just sounds so much better than taking our valve covers off and all that to replace glow plugs. The reason i ask this is cuz i have a glow plug code and if there was a way to put this on i would do that.

I dont have the chance to just be in miami(i would if i could). I am stationed in norfolk and family rochester. so the winter is cold and even colder when i visit family.
Well, the grid heater is a nice option but pulling the v/c's isn't as bad as you think. Your GPR will crap out before the glowplugs will.

I'm not an engineer or anything but my suspicion is the I-6 design of the 5.9's allow them utilize the grid heater style of starting aid verses the glow plugs.
 
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I have a John Deere utility/row crop tractor (6400) 85 pto hp and it has the intake warmer on it and it works great, this is nothing new. It would be interesting to adapt it to the PSD!
 
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I don't know about your trucks, but mine has a n intake heater built in that comes on when is really cold outside. Fortunately I live in San Diego and has never been needed.
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then how do i check my glow plug relay? maybe thats my problem
 
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then how do i check my glow plug relay? maybe thats my problem
Check out the beginning of this link: Welcome to guzzle's Stancor GPR replacement Mod Web Page
 
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