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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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question about a 74 351m

i just bought a 1974 gran tornio elite and was wondering if the 351m was still a turd in 74.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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there were no 351m in 1974, if its the original engine and hasnt been rebuilt it could either be a 400 or a 351c, anywas they all can be woke up with little cash effort with great results,,,
 
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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sticker on the motor says 351m/400 and in the displacement section its labeled as a 5.8 which would make it a 351m.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Krazy351w
sticker on the motor says 351m/400 and in the displacement section its labeled as a 5.8 which would make it a 351m.
when i pulled my 400 out of a '73 galaxie the label on the valve cover read 351M/400. Dont know if they were the original valve covers but im pretty sure they were.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2010 | 11:47 PM
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so you guys are saying this thing could have a 400 in it? only reason im doubting is because when i wiki'd the car the 351m was one of the base motors. infact there were only 4 options for motor 351w 351m 400 and 460. its definatly either a 351m or a 400
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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The motor in my truck is a 400 out of a '75 Elite, so they're definitely out there.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 12:44 AM
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get the numbers off the block my '73 400 is D1AE-6015-A2C MCC foundry
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 02:11 AM
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where are they located at? is it something i gotta pull the motor to see?
 
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The 351M was introduced in 1975 passenger cars, used thru 1979.

351C/351M/351W are all 5.8L's.

The sticker on the engine...where is it...on the valve cover?

The same valve cover fits 351C's, 351M's and 400's. 351C/351M/400 = 8 valve cover bolt holes per side.

The 5th digit of the passenger car's VIN thru 1979 is the engine code.

H = 351C 2V (1970/74) & 351M (1975/79) & 351W (1969/79) / R = 351C 4V High Output (1971/73) / S = 400 (1971/79) / Q = 351C 4V (1971/74).

351W's have 6 valve cover bolt holes per side.

Originally Posted by Krazy351w
I just bought a 1974 Gran Torino Elite.
Is it a 1974 Gran Torino Elite, or is it a 1975? The 1st digit of the passenger car's VIN thru 1979 is the year.

4 = 1974 / 5 = 1975.

If it's a 1974, it would not have come with a 351M...as original.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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351m were NOT introduced until 75, 400 were introduced starting 71 so, go_racing84 yeah 400s were out there 351ms not.... it couldve been modified or maybe not the original engine...
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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I should have been more specific. My comment was directed at the "so you guys are saying this thing could have a 400 in it?" question.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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just got the car home so i could actually look at it and mess around with it. Its definatly a 400! Now i dont know if i wanna do an engine swap or just build the 400, as i have no knowledge or experiance with the 400 small block.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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Its an awsome engine, check your casting foundry as michigan blocks were defective on that year, call this fella he has everything you need for that engine, he is the only supplier for good parts:

TMeyer, Inc. Precision Automotive Machining
 
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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Its an awsome engine, check your casting foundry as michigan blocks were defective on that year, call this fella he has everything you need for that engine, he is the only supplier for good parts:

TMeyer, Inc. Precision Automotive Machining

Do you know if the '73 MCC blocks were defective?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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Yes they were, im still using one with no problems, just have your machine shop check it for cracks....
 
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