Did someone remove the dyno sheet thread on Barry's FE engines?
seems like he got deactivated as well.

Out of curiousity, did he do something I missed, or is building an engine and posting a dyno sheet enough to be banned here?

just curious.
Thanks,
Drew

 

It's frowned upon to discuss this in open forum, but perhaps it needs to be said.

No commercial selling or advertising in the forums, except for sponsors. And non-commercial personal stuff is to be done in the Marketplace classifieds forum. Wanteds can be posted here, but in general selling and ADVERTISING is not allowed.

Barry is an ex-sponsor. As such, he knows the rules. He's been warned many times and the latest dyno run thread, AND the later comments in the same thread from him alluding to selling and questioning moderating policy, is against the rules. Being an ex-sponsor, there is no excuse for this, especially in light of the many times he's been warned.

Before deleting the thread, I brought the thread in question to the attention of our Administrators and the decision was made that it should be removed.

He is not permanently banned, and will be back in a few days if he so chooses.

Again, these are the RULES that are agreed to when you register. If you need to re-read the guidelines, click here: Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Discussion Forum Guidelines

ALSO, something else that needs to be said, given the discussion towards the end of the thread in question.

The ads here, when you are not a paying "supporter", barely cover the cost of running the website. And if you are a paying supporter, the money paid towards the membership still doesn't do much more than cover the cost of the website itself. And remember, if you don't click on the ads, you generate NO REVENUE whatsoever.

The rest of the costs are covered, and any profit is generated, by the SPONSORS of this web site. Without them, this web site would not exist. Because of this, we need to protect said sponsors from non-paying competition or the entire business model falls to pieces. We, as moderators, can not allow that to happen, so the rules must be strictly enforced.

Thank you in advance for understanding.

 

I have been asked to forward a message from BarryR, since he's on timeout- so here it is, verbatim-

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top"> "Tell that cupcake Krewat that I never paid a nickel as a sponsor. They requested that I give them a series of tech articles in trade for the placement. I did not have time to do that and opted out of the agreement.

Tell him to ban MotoMel for making a blatant and fraudulent sales offer "for $3000 I will" and I might come back around after my two weeks.

They can kiss my rusty ***

BR"

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JMHO, seems like you just shot yourself in the foot by suspending Barry

 

It is a shame. I did see the thread and did not see it as an advertisement in any way. I read it and simply took it as a "this is what we have done" posting. I thought it was good that a pro could post info that the users could use. Unfortunately it appears that it was against the rules, but then again the rules here have been called into question many times. This forum is in the unenviable position of being considered a poor source of accurate information and a place where an open exchange is not allowed. I am not saying I am in agreement with this or not but you you see way too many posts out on the net about this. I just read one which was quite lucid and pointed out that "They work against their own interest in that regard and by their actions in you case, they diminish the interest in the group, the expansion of knowledge, and, sustainment of their role in the hobby. A very poor strategic decision on their part.". I have to say that it is sometimes very hard to openly admit to belonging to FTE. Ed

 

I'm over on the FE Furum and see Barry's posts on a regular basis. Additionally, I have spoke to him on a few occasions (never purchased anything from him). He is always more than willing to give up the tech info. and is a great source of free information.
The forum members seeking info may have gotten the short end of the deal here.
Full disclosure requires I admit that I did not see the original post in question.

 

I find it funny that currently, the side bar is running a Chevy Silverado ad and a VW ad as well as a VW ad on the bottom.

Now since VW doesn't make trucks, how does a Chevy ad generate revenue on this website?

What if Jay Brown posted dyno data on here? Is that okay because he's not in the business? What if someone asked him to build them an engine based on his combo in the dyno?

If it's the same info I saw on FordFE.com, then it's just info, sorta like the Hot Rod article, it's what can be done. If not for the free flow of current FE info on here, why have a FE forum here? Probably the only knowledge posted on here about FE's is posted by members who are FordFE.com members as well, why rehash anyway?

 

I have spoken to Barry R and even bought some stuff from him. He was most kind when I called him about trying to find a cam that was comparable to the Crane 941 when Crane went **** up. He didn't have to go through all that, but he did because he's a stand-up guy. And with that, I hate to see him banned over something as silly as all this.

 

...FordFE.com *******s! I've given up here over the years. I use to pay as a subscriber but all I got was slow as hell advertisment loading. Too big for yer britches it was FTE has become. What a shame to ban a valuable asset like Barry. I recognize some of the moderator names from the past 10-12 years here and they all started as everyday Joes but now they have become the FTE ****. What happen to the FUN of a forum? Enjoy your mightier than thou forums!

 

Seems pretty obvious (and unanimous so far) that the unwashed heathen "members" are much in favor of folks like Barry posting who have some real, accurate information to share, which helps cut through a lot of the baloney that gets posted in response to honest questions- especially for FREE- and the Admins and Moderators seem to be much more in favor of making money than actually helping the members. Also looks like Barry's most heinous "crime" was "questioning moderating policy" - How DARE he
From the looks of things, if you start suspending people for that one, there won't be many folks left

 

Perhaps , at 538,000 registered users it might take awhile for all of them to fade away...?

 

I totally agree! without member involvement from Fordfe, the newbii's would always have there thumb up their a$$.

 

Tell him to ban MotoMel for making a blatant and fraudulent sales offer "for $3000 I will" and I might come back around after my two weeks.


I was not offering to build engines as a business or as a paying hobby, I was pointing out that a lot of the parts for the 447 stroker engine are out there relatively cheap and a 600 hp 427 based engine is not all that hard to achieve, based on my experience. I stated $3000 to get across the fact that I didn't want to build any engines because I sure as hell wouldn't pay someone else to put an engine together that nearly anyone else could build and I would have to provide the parts and machine work too? PASS!!
I have built several low tech 427 SOHCs that put out 775 to 785 hp on a dyno in So. Fl. and when I worked at H-M Marine we built 600+ hp race engines that would run in the 7,000 rpm range in ocean racers. Believe me an engine that can take the pounding of those boats skipping the waves is one strong engine.

 

Well it just ****'s me off that over the years we have lost so damn much good talent on FE's an other Ford engine's because of this against the rules ***** its just Nuts ! Now who the Sam hell takes Advertisement for Chevy and other Makers on a FORD site !

I remember a few years back this site in the FE room.. was Rockin..we would be up half the night having a few cold one's and talking our builds and giving out some info.. I have back way off this site just for that purpose.. It just isnt worth the Headache and Bull***** to trey and help another FE Fan out without getting you **** in some damn kind of trouble..

I'am outta here for awhile to cool off...

 

It's truely a mess when you see crap like this cropping up, and in this economy no less. Havent been around but saw the thread on THE REAL FORD FE SITE and figured i get a laugh in. Now back to something that matters....

 

yeah same i have never even been to the fte FE site just because of the fordfe.com site