I offer no opinion as to wether that thread should have been deleted and the OP banned or not, however I do want to say I really like this forum. I like the members. I like the Moderators. I find the Moderators lenient to a lot of posts where the rules are periously close to being unacceptable, if not downright against the rules.

It would be a great shame if members sympathetic to Barry were to boycott this forum. And also a great shame if he doesn't come back.

I was banned from the Club-Cobra forum last October (24 hour ban), and I havn't been back since. However I'm only hurting myself. In that case, it was a Moderator on a power trip. I don't see that here, which is a good thing.

Another forum I belong to is frequented by a number of small business owners who make good quality after-market parts for the hobby. Too many of the memebers look to these guys as gods. Liberties are then taken by these manufacturers and a lot of vulgarities are tolerated which are particualrly unsuitable as the forum relates to a family oriented hobby. The site owner has stated his tolerance for this behavior. Obviously, this also doesn't happen here, which is also a good thing.

Moderators have a tough job sometimes. I'm impressed by those who are tough, yet fair.

And as far as you memebrs go, you guys know your stuff because you do it yourself. Many of you are on a budget and actually thiink vs just throwing money at a problem hoping somehow that'll fix it.

Please don't let this get out of hand. It isn't worth it.

ps: I have seen alternate methods employed, such as locking threads when they get out of hand, or locking them while deleting the last few threads that may be offensive. The Moderator explains why the thread has been locked (although it's usually apparent to everyone)

 

Krewat, just a little clarification please? You stated that if people don't click on the ads no revenue is generated? By clicking/looking we help pay the bills? If this is correct, seems a small price to pay on our part for a great site. I'll do my part.Also seems the advertizers recognize an intelligent, discerning group and hope to sell thier wares. To all others; We all have opinions and feelings. Communication is the key, we as a group are better than this. Communicate, work this out, we need each other. My opinion only. Thankyou OBCB

 

Clicking on an ad does not generate revenue for the advertiser. Sales generate revenue for the advertiser. Banners have long been used by advertisers to produce "Impressions". The theory goes that the more Impressions, the more clicks. The more clicks, the more sales. The Click Through Rate is low, but if enough people do click, sooner or later someone is going to follow through with a phone call or a purchase or whatever. These Banner Ads have become a way of life these days
The people that sell these ad banners to advertisers are able to track how many clicks they receive from each web site. The owner of this web site stands a better chance of keeping an advertiser if he sees that his ads are being clicked on.

 

hahaha our great site lol i have pretty much stopped coming here because of how censored i now frequent pirate4x4.com and fordfe.com to me this forum is too tame and "family oriented", really who sits with their whole family and reads a forum on trucks? i think pirate is where it is at where you can make fun of people with bodylifts mall terrains and exhaust

 

Blueovalfe; I believe I understand, FTE has sold ad space thus generating revenue for its self.By clicking on the ads we create the impression of prospective customers and possable sales,etc. Thus keeping advertizers and revenue. It's all good, as I said "an intelligent,discerning group". Brand loyalty is great, but if you want to catch mice and a better mouse trap. Only my opinion. Thankyou OBCB

 

Your story seems to have changed a bit- now it's 600hp. In the previous thread, your claim was to build a 650hp (+-20), hydraulic cammed, 8000 RPM engine, with very little machine work, if someone bought all the parts you asked for, all old off-the-shelf factory parts that you claimed would be relatively cheap, and if that someone would pay you "$3000 for your labor and knowledge", and you claimed "very little machine work"- nice backpedal, but the folks who saw the original thread will find that very familiar, and you did indeed offer to build the engine for money- which Barry did not do.
That cheap 650hp, 8000 RPM 447 with a hydraulic cam claim was where the thread went south, c'mon, maybe a slight exaggeration? Even with a modern juice roller, which you did not claim, that would be tough
Coming back in with a heavily modified story and feigning innocence isn't going to go very far with the folks who saw the first thread- nice try though. Probably would have been better if you hadn't said anything- quite a few people saw your original "unmodified" post

 

I think you've got the picture. I would likely click on a Hooter's banner before a Chebby banner...

 

Don't forget the Toyota Prius ads
Anybody who believes the barely-paying-the-bills line, if you believe that with the large number of registered members & paid "sponsors", and the number of paid advertisers and banner ads, the corporation that owns & operates this site is not pulling in some serious coin, I have a big orange bridge to sell you- freshly painted, too. Nothing wrong with that, but just don't pi$$ down my back and tell me it's raining

 

Thats fine with me, you build the same engine and dyno it, I built the first one using a service block, Lemans rods, '63 flat tops cut 0.100, 410 Mercury crank, C80E Hydraulic cam, Tunnel port heads w/Donovan valves, and a pair of 780 cfm Hollys, Ford Transistor ignition, Belanger headers running in my '68 GT 500 KR in front of a stock C6 trans witn a 3.50 Detroit locker. Go build one yourself and dyno it. Then put it where you want and have fun.

 

Yeppers, there's some relatively cheap, readily available to anyone parts

And you still completely changed your story when "caught"

 

It does generate revenue to the web site that hosts the ad.

I walk a very fine line when it comes to issues of this sort, and I pretty much stepped all over BOTH sides of that line with this particular issue.

It would indeed be a shame to lose Barry, and those sympathetic to him, and I hope everyone reconsiders their stand on this.

This thread is closed, so we can go back to the business of discussing FEs.