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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 11:48 PM
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Smile 302 351 swap

i was just wondering what it would be involved with a 302 to 351 swap just an engine transplant and a ecm swap or is it more complicated
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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I did it, went from 302 to a'93 351 in a '90 f150. It was pretty straight up, but a couple things you need to look out for are: width of "y" pipe, 351 is about 5" wider, the trans, if you are using an AOD you need to change the flex plate, and make sure you get the right exhaust manifold with the 351 you are installing as the egr pipe on a 351 is at the front of the right exaust manifold and the 302 is under the intake. I used the original 302 computer and have had no problems. There are many threads about this swap here, lots of good advice.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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well thanks for the info this is my first ford and im not sure of whats what if it was a chevy id have it all done already
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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The number of complications you run into will depend a lot on what year the truck is and if the motor going in is stock or not.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wag53
I did it, went from 302 to a'93 351 in a '90 f150. It was pretty straight up, but a couple things you need to look out for are: width of "y" pipe, 351 is about 5" wider, the trans, if you are using an AOD you need to change the flex plate, and make sure you get the right exhaust manifold with the 351 you are installing as the egr pipe on a 351 is at the front of the right exaust manifold and the 302 is under the intake. I used the original 302 computer and have had no problems. There are many threads about this swap here, lots of good advice.
Wag, I'm curious what kind of difference you noted with the before/after (assuming they were mostly stock).
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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I went from a stock 5.0 to a 5.8 with a cam and longtubes and I can tell you the difference was hugh, the 5.8 was easily 3 or more seconds faster 0-60 with the biggest difference in power happening below 3000rpm, the 5.8 produces WAY more grunt.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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The engine is a stock 351 from a '93 bronco I just freshened it up (rings, bearings, valve job, gaskets.) Just driving it around town I don't see much difference, but when I'm pulling my camper it really shows the difference. It pulls much better, the 302 had its tongue hanging out going from here to the mountains on I26&I385 but it did have 175k on it when I put the 351 in. Gas mileage is slightly worse, 10 with 302 towing and 9.5 with 351.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Ineteresting. I've owned similar trucks (shortbox 4x4's) of the same year, first with a 5.0, current with 5.8, but can't tell the differencet. Owned them far enough apart and had enough differences (gear ratio) that it would be difficult though. I've been curious as to the straight away/same truck comparisons would be.
 
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I have driven a few all stock trucks with both motors and will agree they are very similar.. almost too similar, it seems the stock exhaust system hurts the bigger motor more. I now have the 5.0 back in my truck while the 5.8 gets further upgrades but even though this motor also has a cam upgrade and is using the same exhaust system the 5.8 was with longtubes it's gutless in comparison.
 
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its going to be bone stock just out of curiousity did u do a maf conversion for the bigger cam or bigger injectors
 
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Interesting, might have to look into the long tubes for mine at some point down the line. Have the 3.08 so not going to worry about any upgrades before gearing.
 
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Originally Posted by moostadon
just out of curiousity did u do a maf conversion for the bigger cam or bigger injectors
I did it because I was replacing a 5.0 with a 5.8 and the 5.0 SD computer won't handle that very well while the mass air version does. I did not install bigger injectors on either motor as they weren't needed.
 
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