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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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351w upgrade

Ok so i got a 84 351w in a 77 ranger, i bought some d0oe heads and am about to pick up the xtreme energy kit from summit, am i going in the right direction? any suggestions?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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What do you want out off the truck ? If the dooe heads have the 60cc chambers that will help your compression ratio , i asume they have stud mount rockers , do they have the air pump holes in the back of the heads ??? ...Lew
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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Exactly what cam are you looking at?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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If those heads use the stock rail rockers - i.e. not machined for studs and guideplates - you shouldn't run a cam with more than ~.45" of lift. I saw a pair hold up with one of those old Edelbrock Performer cams.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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this is what i was told to get
COMP Cams K35-238-3 - COMP Cams Xtreme Energy Cam and Lifter Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com
 
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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im not to educated on the whole engine overhaul, im just going on what i was told, i bought the heads offline and they are in very nice shape, or so i think, and i was told to get that package to get the most out of my 351w, im just looking to make my truck nice and fast, nothing ridiculous or anything, just a nice pro-street truck. hopefully im going in the right direction, its a 77 f100 with a 84 351w according to the casting id, and it has a c6 transmission and on the drive shaft it says 1981 f150
 
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Here's the deal, those heads use rail rocker arms - they've got little ears on either side of the valve stem to keep them aligned. If you run a high lift cam - and the one you're looking at there is .5" - those ears can ding the retainers and pop loose the locks...which means a dropped valve and the end of your driving fun for the day.

You could get away with a smaller cam, maybe this one COMP Cams K35-230-3 - COMP Cams Xtreme Energy Cam and Lifter Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com It's a good truck cam, I got one for my 351, lots of torque and will rev out to ~5,000.
 
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Option B is to have them machined for screw-in studs and guideplates and get some hardened pushrods. Then you can run just about any cam you want. But that XE250 cam will make you pretty happy with those heads.
 
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thanks baron
 
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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The heads have studs so you can use whatever rockers you want and I'd also suggest a modern roller rocker utilizing guide plates and hardened pushrods as Baron did. I don't see the XE262H being an issue as any spring set you buy will support 1/2" lift including those in the kit and this cam will deliver the broadest powerband(most TQ and HP) with a 351.. though the XE250H isn't a horrible second choice but will come up a little short on the top end.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Sounds like your going the right way , they look like press in studs , you can drill & tap them for screw in studs if you want ....Lew
 
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Comp makes some stamped roller tip rail rockers that might be worth checking out too. COMP Cams 1431-16 - COMP Cams Magnum Steel Roller Tip Rocker Arms - Overview - SummitRacing.com
 
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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I would go full roller , check out scorpion performance , they make some nice rockers at a good price....Lew
 
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