Anyone running hyrdo assist?
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Okay I thought I might be off my rocker but then Im right nobody in this thread is actually running full hydro. Ya threw me for a loop there for a minute.
Snapping sector shafts! That surprises me. I have heard of guys snapping them with stock steering or even with crossover, but not with aftermarket hydro assist (i make this distinction because the old hiboy setup doesnt really count). Pretty crazy you are snapping sector shafts with a good hydro assist, I can see why you want to go full.
Snapping sector shafts! That surprises me. I have heard of guys snapping them with stock steering or even with crossover, but not with aftermarket hydro assist (i make this distinction because the old hiboy setup doesnt really count). Pretty crazy you are snapping sector shafts with a good hydro assist, I can see why you want to go full.
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I never said I was, I just said with rocks, full hydro is the way. Expecially with the tire size he wants to run. It sounded like you where saying that no one knew what they where taling about, so I pointed out that assist isn't enough with 44s, so it wouldn't be enough with the rocks and bigger tires.
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Thanks for the info guys, since there's a huge weight factor going on here with an almost 350 lb wheel/tire combination, sounds like I need to go straight to full hydraulic and avoid the hassle.
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Folks are just to sensitive around here I think.
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Like I said earlier, I just put full hydro in my ranger bogger. In the thick gooey pits, it was too much of a pain trying to steer. Also with a BB and upright headers, the shaft was in the way. I used a single ended 2" x 8" ram from tractor supply, a danfoss mini steering valve I picked up off ebay, and since I run no belts on the motor, a 12vdc hydraulic pump from an old slide in dump bed. It's the same as can be bought from Northern Tool for around $250.
After it is allmounted up, just make hoses to length and turn with single finger lock to lock!
After it is allmounted up, just make hoses to length and turn with single finger lock to lock!
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Haha, I want that! For some reason, I want to think I need a double ended ram. Is there a huge price difference in the two? Why didn't you go with this route?
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Its a preferance deal, the double ended ram is used to replace the tierod, the single ram is used with a tie rod. Than the ram has one mounting point on the axle housing and one on the nuckle or tie rod itself. Single ram is cheaper, and has half the seals to worry about leaking...
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It all depends on the tierod, if u use the stock one, or upgrade to rodends,and tube. I never bent the stock tierod with my assist, but I did break the tierod where it goes into the nuckle a couple times. So now I run rodends and thick walled tubing.
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Its a preferance deal, the double ended ram is used to replace the tierod, the single ram is used with a tie rod. Than the ram has one mounting point on the axle housing and one on the nuckle or tie rod itself. Single ram is cheaper, and has half the seals to worry about leaking...
If you go to full hydro, odds are you are not going to keep the crappy stock tie rods. Usually people upgrade to heavy duty 1 ton or better tie rods or do like I did and go straight to 3/4 x3/4 kevlar lined rod ends and at least 1" Chromoly tube.
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