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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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I was just watching power block and the 4x4 guys put an electric fan on a dodge to get better fuel economy. Back when I had an s-10 I remember alot of guys switching to one to try to free up a little bit of power. I have never seen anyone put one on a 7.3 and its got me wondering. I would think that a 7.3 is too big of a motor to rely on an electric fan, but I dont know. Any input?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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IIRC, the general consensus is that if you tow, you can't use the electric fan because it doesn't pull enough air. So you save on the parasitic HP from the fan but now you have a huge electrical draw. Kinda of a push to me.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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IIRC, the general consensus is that if you tow, you can't use the electric fan because it doesn't pull enough air. So you save on the parasitic HP from the fan but now you have a huge electrical draw. Kinda of a push to me.
Yes, pulling a big trailer in the city would be the worse nightmare of an electric fan, and eventually you're tranny, and possibly engine.

However, if there was a real powerful fan, (there is), and you pulled mostly on the highway, so it never really had to come on, I still see it working decent.

What about just putting a clutch on the fan?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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IIRC, someone did the math and to have an electric fan that pulls the same amount of air as the engine driven one you're looking at a fan that draws 800amps. Like they said, probably ok driving around empty, maybe with a small load, but forget towing with an electric setup.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by twags6
IIRC, someone did the math and to have an electric fan that pulls the same amount of air as the engine driven one you're looking at a fan that draws 800amps. Like they said, probably ok driving around empty, maybe with a small load, but forget towing with an electric setup.
Is that like having an ambulance setup with maybe 5 more alternators?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 03:51 AM
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Yes, pulling a big trailer in the city would be the worse nightmare of an electric fan, and eventually you're tranny, and possibly engine.

However, if there was a real powerful fan, (there is), and you pulled mostly on the highway, so it never really had to come on, I still see it working decent.

What about just putting a clutch on the fan?
a stock PSD already has a clutch fan in place..mine hardly ever turns on..not enough to swap to an electric fan..you can hear the fan when you first start up in the AM and head down the road..it will shut off after a few minutes..when my clutch went bad a couple winters ago i drover her for a month with no fan at all..she never came close to getting hot...Chris (Power stroke junky) had to do the same thing that same winter..he never got hot ether..

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IIRC, someone did the math and to have an electric fan that pulls the same amount of air as the engine driven one you're looking at a fan that draws 800amps. Like they said, probably ok driving around empty, maybe with a small load, but forget towing with an electric setup.
i think you mean CFM's ??
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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No -- AMPS. People tend to forget that fans of that size are VERY power hungry. I think the ones I've seen advertised for our trucks (for light towing only) are like 50A. That would seriously tax the stock alt. It would be wise upgrade the alt before putting that in, IMHO...
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ron's power stroke
i think you mean CFM's ??
No, definitely amps. I'm not sure on the exact amount of HP the fan needs at full lock up but I think its 15-20 HP. When you convert that to watts and then to amps at 12vdc, its way up there.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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1 HP = ~745W. Using 15HP, that's 11,175W. Power = Amps x Volts, Power/Volts = Amps. Using 13.8V (assuming the truck is RUNNING when the fan kicks in), 11,175/13.8 = ~809A.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Are we sure the fan has an electronic clutch in it?

Mine feels like it has a little torque converter in it.

A clutch would be the best of both worlds, and probably an easier mod to do.
 
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I don't think it's electronic...
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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How many cfm is the stock fan pulling? I think the math is correct, but an electric fan's rating will be different than using hp. They sell electric fans for other diesel trucks, so why won't it work on the 7.3l? I'd think 2 4000 cfm fans should be enough. They won't even pull 100A let alone 800.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Motor Parts Central: - 98 to 03 F250/F350 Ford Power Stroke Diesel Electric Fan.

Here is one I found. 6000cfm will cool about anything. I'd bet the stock fan won't pull that most of the time.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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The ones they sell for our trucks just plain do not work when towing. The truck will run hot and the fans are a pain.

IIRC they do not even sell them any more because of this very issue.

There is just not enough gain to offset the loss.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.0 Junkie
Motor Parts Central: - 98 to 03 F250/F350 Ford Power Stroke Diesel Electric Fan.

Here is one I found. 6000cfm will cool about anything. I'd bet the stock fan won't pull that most of the time.
Nope. Look at the fine print: Custom brackets make this a bolt-on installation, and should be limited to GCVW of 18,000 lbs..
 
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