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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
this is what you are missing its not a FIX. its a bandaid till you start puking coolant from not fixing the real issue.
please dont take it personal Im just tring to offer correct, well practiced and very proven advise.
WEll, enlighten me, whats the real issue?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cxrxaxz
WEll, enlighten me, whats the real issue?
clean and remove all the silica from the cooling system. check boost and make sure its not excessive, varifiy no cooling system leaks what so ever. check the cooling system cap for correct pressure venting. varify vdf functions correctly, varify fdv does not slip. Just a short version if you would like more let me know what you fail to understand, I will gladly help explain further
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
clean and remove all the silica from the cooling system. check boost and make sure its not excessive, varifiy no cooling system leaks what so ever. check the cooling system cap for correct pressure venting. varify vdf functions correctly, varify fdv does not slip. Just a short version if you would like more let me know what you fail to understand, I will gladly help explain further
ok, you proved that their is tons of things that can go wrong. I dont disagree with that. You will never have a vehicle that will never have problems. The only problems you ever really hear about though is EGR, egr cooler, oil cooler and headgaskets. If thoes are the main problems and you fix thoes problems then your truck can be as dependable as the next.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cxrxaxz
The only problems you ever really hear about though is EGR, egr cooler, oil cooler and headgaskets.
And alot of that is due to owners not knowing how to handle these newer diesel engines with the emissions standards.

There are alot more people that aren't having near as many troubles with the EGR system etc because there is more knowledge out there on how to care and handle these trucks compared to what you could do with the older trucks. If you are going by what you read on the forums, that really isn't a fair assessment on the situation as most people come on here to have problems fixed first and foremost. Otherwise, you tend not to hear from someone that is happy and content(atleast they aren't as vocal about that compared to if there was a problem).
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cxrxaxz
ok, you proved that their is tons of things that can go wrong. I dont disagree with that. You will never have a vehicle that will never have problems. The only problems you ever really hear about though is EGR, egr cooler, oil cooler and headgaskets. If thoes are the main problems and you fix thoes problems then your truck can be as dependable as the next.
I play with this engine all day long. theres far more things to worry about then the if of coolers and headgaskets. lack of maintace will kill it, great maintance will save it.

and just an fyi headgaskets dont seem to be an issue with the 6.0 its the bolts.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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and just an fyi headgaskets dont seem to be an issue with the 6.0 its the bolts.

That's true. I didn't catch that. 508hp and 721 ft/lbs and I'm still using stock gaskets.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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That's true. I didn't catch that. 508hp and 721 ft/lbs and I'm still using stock gaskets.
I like this guy.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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I like this guy.
LOL thats cute.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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wow,is it getting hot in here or is it me?u guys are sure getting testy.tex25025 are u still running egr?i didnt see that in this thread but i thought i remember that from another.im still under warranty and have had egr replaced. was gathering info for the future in case i need to make the decision to keep or delete.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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wow,is it getting hot in here or is it me?u guys are sure getting testy.tex25025 are u still running egr?i didnt see that in this thread but i thought i remember that from another.im still under warranty and have had egr replaced. was gathering info for the future in case i need to make the decision to keep or delete.
I'm running a bypass, we have emissions here which includes visual inspection. Irony is with the right tune even with the bigger sticks I have less opacity then stock people do.

It, however, was a necessary for me to bypass the egr has I would be flowing way to much fuel for the EGR valve to not have issues with that and the cooler. So don't get too excited cxrxaxz about that fact that despite advocating keeping the EGR system, I'm running a bypass. Doesn't make what I said any less true and I can give examples along those lines as well if you don't believe me.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
I'm running a bypass, we have emissions here which includes visual inspection. Irony is with the right tune even with the bigger sticks I have less opacity then stock people do.

It, however, was a necessary for me to bypass the egr has I would be flowing way to much fuel for the EGR valve to not have issues with that and the cooler. So don't get too excited cxrxaxz about that fact that despite advocating keeping the EGR system, I'm running a bypass. Doesn't make what I said any less true and I can give examples along those lines as well if you don't believe me.
I dont care if you dont practice what you preach.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cxrxaxz
I dont care if you dont practice what you preach.

I will say this, 70k on the odometer(before I added the sticks) and I never once had a EGR related issue, if it wasn't for the fact of my going with the bigger sticks, I would still have the EGR system working.

I will say this in reference to another thread that you were recently posting in, your not really establishing good bona vides with us. I don't know what your reputation is like at other forums, but this isn't those other forums either. Since you have a low post count, that's something you have to try to establish. Now a low post count doesn't in of itself mean that you are a "spammer", but it doesn't help your case, particularly when your posts make wild claims that you really can't back up. I mean come on:

Originally Posted by cxrxaxz
I said if you have a tuner your mpg will be higher.
There are plenty of people that for whatever reason haven't gotten mpg improvements, especially if they have a lead foot, but some of them claim that they did not. We don't know rather they do or not, so you kinda have to take them at their word, but that shoots down that claim. I know how I drive and I have yet to see mpg improvements and I run hotter tunes then 95% of the people on this forum with this engine specifically. For all I know, you could be one of those people that think "you" could benefit from an a/m intake on a stock and/or tuned(just tuned mind you) 6.0.

I know I have dealt with this engine for a long time and I've done alot of stuff with it, I have no idea what your background is. Only background I have from you(if I chose to believe you) is that you are apart of two other forums, that's it. I know nothing else, now that might be mentioned in another thread that I haven't found yet, but I know nothing about your background.

It's like you have picked up some reduminatary knowledge and are dispensing it without any true substance behind it. This is the appearance you are giving me, rather this is a true picture or not is something that you have to clear up and I have to tell you, you aren't doing a bang up job of it.

I doubt you see it this way and I doubt I(or anyone else) could convince you otherwise. I just hope, unless I see more substance in what you say, that no one takes your advice on things, because it isn't all there, based on the posts of yours that I've seen, it's like you don't have a complete picture. You have a little bit of it and you take it and run.

Take what you will from it, I'm done. I'm really going to take this much to far off topic if I continue along these lines.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
I will say this, 70k on the odometer(before I added the sticks) and I never once had a EGR related issue, if it wasn't for the fact of my going with the bigger sticks, I would still have the EGR system working.

I will say this in reference to another thread that you were recently posting in, your not really establishing good bona vides with us. I don't know what your reputation is like at other forums, but this isn't those other forums either. Since you have a low post count, that's something you have to try to establish. Now a low post count doesn't in of itself mean that you are a "spammer", but it doesn't help your case, particularly when your posts make wild claims that you really can't back up. I mean come on:



There are plenty of people that for whatever reason haven't gotten mpg improvements, especially if they have a lead foot, but some of them claim that they did not. We don't know rather they do or not, so you kinda have to take them at their word, but that shoots down that claim. I know how I drive and I have yet to see mpg improvements and I run hotter tunes then 95% of the people on this forum with this engine specifically. For all I know, you could be one of those people that think "you" could benefit from an a/m intake on a stock and/or tuned(just tuned mind you) 6.0.

I know I have dealt with this engine for a long time and I've done alot of stuff with it, I have no idea what your background is. Only background I have from you(if I chose to believe you) is that you are apart of two other forums, that's it. I know nothing else, now that might be mentioned in another thread that I haven't found yet, but I know nothing about your background.

It's like you have picked up some reduminatary knowledge and are dispensing it without any true substance behind it. This is the appearance you are giving me, rather this is a true picture or not is something that you have to clear up and I have to tell you, you aren't doing a bang up job of it.

I doubt you see it this way and I doubt I(or anyone else) could convince you otherwise. I just hope, unless I see more substance in what you say, that no one takes your advice on things, because it isn't all there, based on the posts of yours that I've seen, it's like you don't have a complete picture. You have a little bit of it and you take it and run.

Take what you will from it, I'm done. I'm really going to take this much to far off topic if I continue along these lines.
Would you give it a rest? I told you i didnt care and ceased any further atempts to question you. Can you just take that for whats its worth. Im done. Leave it at that.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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Wow. Can't we just stick to the topic? It is apparent that there is no single right answer and I didn't read anywhere in he rules that anyone had to prove himself before offering an opinion. Sorry--my .02
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by doublef

I have a 04 F-350 6.0 w/ approx 135k miles. The truck started blowing white smoke out the exhaust, then a puddle of motor oil appeared that was leaking out of the muffler. The mechanic advised me today that the EGR cooler and valve were both bad. I have been told about an EGR bypass or delete. I am trying to consider all my options and am VERY open to suggestions.
Here's a couple of suggestions.

A coolant filter is a great idea in my opinion...proper cooling system maintenance is even more important.

Dieselsite makes a popular kit http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...ROD&ProdID=324 but there are others...some people even make up their own. Either way, I think it's a good addition for removing any of the junk you may have running through your cooling system which can clog up your oil and egr coolers and lead to their failure.

I won't get into the EGR delete or bypass kits, but if you want to retain your EGR system for whatever reason there is an alternative to the stock cooler that you may want to consider: http://www.ntshoptools.com/ This cooler is far more robust than the stock piece. Again, my opinion.

I hope that isn't oil coming out of your tailpipe...maybe it's just soot mixed with the moisture in the exhaust because of the bad EGR cooler?
 
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