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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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knock on startup first time

well this morning i started my truck with a na 6.9 250,000 miles, and it knocked for about 10 seconds tell the oil pressure came up, felt like it was taking centurys!!! i have a mechanical oil press gauge i watch, it had been sitting for a month in -5 f to 15 f above or so without being started, you guys ever experiance this? it sounds fine now idling away in the driveway though, i probably should have switched to synthetic oil and plugged it in before winter, but i never done that before and never had a problem.


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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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if it sat for a month in those temps, it started dry as a bone and that was the reson for the knock, it would be like firing up an engine for the first time dry as hell, hard on them. Synthetics help but you can help it out a lot by turning it over once a week in those temps.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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How old are the injectors?

Sounds like a leaky one.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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i imagine pretty old as ive never changed them, but ive only had this engine since it was inthe 230-240,000 mile range. i think it was dry oiling system from sitting and this dino oil in the cold, it was neg zero f last night, so it probably took some pumping to get around, i think i might drain the oil and put some semisenthetic in it or somthing. or just start it once a week like the other guy suggested..

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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Ray did your oil pressure come up quick. I'm betting you it was actually a fuel knock until it got a little heat.
My bif trucks all do it in those temps. I hate it but there is nothing really to do about it.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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My 6.9 sits all winter one month at a time in sub zero temps*

Never had any problems with starting or knocks.

I run regular oil, Valvoline All Fleet 15W40.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Ray I had a couple of trucks over at tok winter before last when the temps got 72 below and they started this on the highway 2 quarts of atf in each tank quieted them right down. Scared the hell out of me though.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by starmilt
Ray did your oil pressure come up quick. I'm betting you it was actually a fuel knock until it got a little heat.
My bif trucks all do it in those temps. I hate it but there is nothing really to do about it.

ya the pressure came right up within 10 seconds and the knock instantly went away as the pressure came.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Do you have an oil pan heater. If you hadn't cranked it for a month and you live where I think you do you have had close to 30 below temps some days even though you are haveing a heatwave now it takes that iron and oil a long time to warm.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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when the pressure came up it went away sounds to me like it was just damn cold and was dry.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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ya i should have plugged it in, i got batt heaters, coolant heater, and oilpan heater, but i usually dont plug them in tell -20 then i plug them in for a hour or 2 before starting, and it starts up like its summer out, it started super easy today, just makes me nervous that knock in the beginning, took it for a drive and it seems to be good, the oil pressure after warming up is still 25 like it normaly is on my aftermarket gauge at idle.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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on my other 6.9 i was 4 wheelign allot and shut it off to take a brake one time, and it had knock when i started it back up but it was injector knock im pretty sure, as i just had replaced the injectors in that the winter before the spring i was wheeling it, i think i had a dribbler, i just run a extra dose of power service in it and it never did it again.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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b-uno youre bronco with the 6.9 are you still running the original coil springs. Is there anything you would have done differently as I think I'm going to go diesel with mine.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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b-uno youre bronco with the 6.9 are you still running the original coil springs. Is there anything you would have done differently as I think I'm going to go diesel with mine.

its stilla work in progress but as it sits right now with the 6.9 in it im running cage progressive 6" coils. now there is no trans of andything in it yet either, the front clip is still off it also. as im working on the perfect positioning for the motor to shift some of the weight towards the rear.

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Ok I hear you is it going to be mainly off road or a daily driver what tranny are you going to use.
 
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