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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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I've got a 86' F-350 6.9. I've been having trouble with it overheating I have replaced the radiator,thermostat,and fan clutch,the water pump is a year old,it does fine just driving around town but when I get out on the highway it get's hot if I pull over it cool's down(fast like less than 2 min.)I used to never have this prob,I used to drive down the highway with my plow all the way up and would not even get warm,I used to have trouble keeping the cab warm...any help would be great thanks!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Do you have good flow through the rad?
Did you replace the thermostat with genuine International or Ford Motorcraft unit? Many claim early failure using after market thermostats.
Are you natural or turbo?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 87crewdually
Do you have good flow through the rad?
Did you replace the thermostat with genuine International or Ford Motorcraft unit? Many claim early failure using after market thermostats.
Are you natural or turbo?
it was a NAPA thermostat,but I'm thinking of a international one,Natural
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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Id start with the thermostat. May be sticking or only partially opening. Check to see if you see any bubbles in your coolant resevoir/radiator when it's running, as this could be a sign of blown or weak headgasket.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 87crewdually
Id start with the thermostat. May be sticking or only partially opening. Check to see if you see any bubbles in your coolant resevoir/radiator when it's running, as this could be a sign of blown or weak headgasket.
I've checked for bubble's..none so far
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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I've checked for bubble's..none so far
That's a good thing. When you do that thermostat don't forget there is a little check ball that has to be reinstalled, make sure it's not clogged or stuck.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 87crewdually
That's a good thing. When you do that thermostat don't forget there is a little check ball that has to be reinstalled, make sure it's not clogged or stuck.
where is it at?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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No idea if you have the same layout as us on our 85, 6.9 but we just went through this kind of thing although it didn't trigger the fan or the light.

We took everything apart and cleaned the mating surfaces of the thermostat neck, and the beebee ball and its cavity and it was caked with red rtv! There is no way it was acting as it should and luckily for us the retainer for the ball was intact.

Also for peace of mind we started fresh, at the advice of people here, and got a genuine ford motocraft thermostat.

Well yesterday was the day we got it all back together and its all acting normally! From idle warmup to driving it around on the freeway, etc.

Now I can burp it easier and everything flows very nicely We are new to diesels and didn't know any better, assumed it just wasn't getting up to temperature. I would have hate to have this happen during the summer when we towed, but thank goodness for this awesome site and the search function

Here are some pictures of my story, have no idea what the previous owner was doing





 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Dirtyboy rev the motor pretty good and watch your lower radiator hose it could be sucking flat, just a possibility.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by damac
No idea if you have the same layout as us on our 85, 6.9 but we just went through this kind of thing although it didn't trigger the fan or the light.

We took everything apart and cleaned the mating surfaces of the thermostat neck, and the beebee ball and its cavity and it was caked with red rtv! There is no way it was acting as it should and luckily for us the retainer for the ball was intact.

Also for peace of mind we started fresh, at the advice of people here, and got a genuine ford motocraft thermostat.

Well yesterday was the day we got it all back together and its all acting normally! From idle warmup to driving it around on the freeway, etc.

Now I can burp it easier and everything flows very nicely We are new to diesels and didn't know any better, assumed it just wasn't getting up to temperature. I would have hate to have this happen during the summer when we towed, but thank goodness for this awesome site and the search function

Here are some pictures of my story, have no idea what the previous owner was doing
Very interesting. I'm going to look at mine really good when I have it apart because mine says it's getting hot, the light won't kick on and the fan clutch won't activate. Great post!!!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Hey fellas,

I'm replacing the thermostat soon (with a motocraft one)...... my truck is an 86 F250.

The check ball that needs to be cleaned up (hopefully mine's not bad like the pictures above!) Does it come out of the housing? If so, how? I figure that would make it a lot easier to clean it up if required... Thanks in advance
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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The check ball should be staked into the housing.
But after all these years many of them will come out.

Going back to the original post, when the temp is increasing do you ever hear the fan clutch lock up?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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what would it sound like because i dont hear mine do that at all, is it really noticable? I think when i do the rad i will switch to the electric fan.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle
The check ball should be staked into the housing.
But after all these years many of them will come out.

Going back to the original post, when the temp is increasing do you ever hear the fan clutch lock up?
It's hard for me to hear the fan becuase of my exhaust,but it seem's to come on,although not all the time or at the right time's,as for the check ball what is it for?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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The check valve lets the air out of the coolant system so you don't get an air block. I had to fix my ball check valve holder because the ball would come out if I left it as it was. I used a brass compression fitting nut that was slightly bigger in diameter than the hole and filed it flat with the housing. When you have fixed it you will be able to hear the ball rolling around inside the coolant neck that the upper coolant hose is held onto.
 
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