Minor problem need help with diagnosis.
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Minor problem need help with diagnosis.
Ok I just started to notice this today. I want to fix the issue before it becomes worse.
When I am at very slow speeds and have the wheel turned all the way (either direction) the truck kinda catches and jerks a little bit. Any ideas. I have not checked the ball joints don't have a jack yet. I will tomorrow though. Thought I would through it out to see what you guys had to say.
It almost feels like the four wheel drive is engaged, but not as bad. You know how it grabs when driving in four wheel on drive asphalt, but it is not engaged. The selector switch is in 2WD.
Any thoughts or ideas.
Thanks in advance.
When I am at very slow speeds and have the wheel turned all the way (either direction) the truck kinda catches and jerks a little bit. Any ideas. I have not checked the ball joints don't have a jack yet. I will tomorrow though. Thought I would through it out to see what you guys had to say.
It almost feels like the four wheel drive is engaged, but not as bad. You know how it grabs when driving in four wheel on drive asphalt, but it is not engaged. The selector switch is in 2WD.
Any thoughts or ideas.
Thanks in advance.
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Ok I just started to notice this today. I want to fix the issue before it becomes worse.
When I am at very slow speeds and have the wheel turned all the way (either direction) the truck kinda catches and jerks a little bit. Any ideas. I have not checked the ball joints don't have a jack yet. I will tomorrow though. Thought I would through it out to see what you guys had to say.
It almost feels like the four wheel drive is engaged, but not as bad. You know how it grabs when driving in four wheel on drive asphalt, but it is not engaged. The selector switch is in 2WD.
Any thoughts or ideas.
Thanks in advance.
When I am at very slow speeds and have the wheel turned all the way (either direction) the truck kinda catches and jerks a little bit. Any ideas. I have not checked the ball joints don't have a jack yet. I will tomorrow though. Thought I would through it out to see what you guys had to say.
It almost feels like the four wheel drive is engaged, but not as bad. You know how it grabs when driving in four wheel on drive asphalt, but it is not engaged. The selector switch is in 2WD.
Any thoughts or ideas.
Thanks in advance.
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Jody,
Is it more noticeable when backing up or when you move forward ? The steering geometry is not the same when backing up, as it is when moving forward. It makes tires slip while backing up. ( in a full turn ) feels like something is binding up. I have it in mine, and when I took the alignment shop that is what they told me .( a truck shop not Ford ) Mine is 2wd
Is it more noticeable when backing up or when you move forward ? The steering geometry is not the same when backing up, as it is when moving forward. It makes tires slip while backing up. ( in a full turn ) feels like something is binding up. I have it in mine, and when I took the alignment shop that is what they told me .( a truck shop not Ford ) Mine is 2wd
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Jody,
Is it more noticeable when backing up or when you move forward ? The steering geometry is not the same when backing up, as it is when moving forward. It makes tires slip while backing up. ( in a full turn ) feels like something is binding up. I have it in mine, and when I took the alignment shop that is what they told me .( a truck shop not Ford ) Mine is 2wd
Is it more noticeable when backing up or when you move forward ? The steering geometry is not the same when backing up, as it is when moving forward. It makes tires slip while backing up. ( in a full turn ) feels like something is binding up. I have it in mine, and when I took the alignment shop that is what they told me .( a truck shop not Ford ) Mine is 2wd
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I am with Brian, its most likley a sticking hub...i have manuel stuff so i dont run into that. Try jacking each front wheel up, spin it and watch to see if the U-joint moves=hub still engaged, if you hear a click durring all of this its probly the hub disconnecting. How often do you used 4x4? whens the last time? those auto hubs and electric t-case motor need to be used to prevent from going out. most guys say once a month engage 4x4 and get everything moving.
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I had that happen to me two weeks ago, had a light scrub going around corners. I was using my 4x4 because of all the snow we had but I felt the light binding and decided to climb under and tried to turn the front drive shaft and seen it was engauged. I put my truck in reverse and it disengauged. Try putting in reverse when your done using your 4x4. Might be the hubs sticking a bit from the cold.
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I'm not sure a "quick" diagnosis is what you are looking for.
These front ends are ridiculously simple, and frequently misunderstood.
The "Official" procedure is to drop the tie rod ends and see which wheel it is coming from.
In this case, you will have to rotate each wheel at each extreme of the steering.
On the wheel that is giving trouble, the hub gets pulled and tested again. Somehow, you have to isolate the hub, differential and the bearings. If it isn't real bad, it might not show up.
I went through three front end shops that "guessed" at quick fixes - ended up paying less for the dealer, who went through the procedure and found the exact problem.
These front ends are ridiculously simple, and frequently misunderstood.
The "Official" procedure is to drop the tie rod ends and see which wheel it is coming from.
In this case, you will have to rotate each wheel at each extreme of the steering.
On the wheel that is giving trouble, the hub gets pulled and tested again. Somehow, you have to isolate the hub, differential and the bearings. If it isn't real bad, it might not show up.
I went through three front end shops that "guessed" at quick fixes - ended up paying less for the dealer, who went through the procedure and found the exact problem.
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Well I was able to get onto a dirt road and was able to run it a little bit in 4x4. It definitely engaged and disengaged. Doesn't seem to be doing it now. I did back up so maybe that worked. Will be jacking it up tomorrow to take a look at each individual side. Hopefully it doesn't come back. Thanks for the help will post the results.
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Well I was able to get onto a dirt road and was able to run it a little bit in 4x4. It definitely engaged and disengaged. Doesn't seem to be doing it now. I did back up so maybe that worked. Will be jacking it up tomorrow to take a look at each individual side. Hopefully it doesn't come back. Thanks for the help will post the results.
) occurs on these trucks when the hub is locked, and the knuckle (wheel) approaches its turning stop. So, if one hub was "locked" this would cause the axle shaft to rotate with the tire... when you turn sharp you're going to experience the U-joint just inboard of the knuckle binding. This is why it sounds like a hub is "sticking" in the locked position.You don't have to jack the truck up or anything, you can just manually turn the axle right there at the knuckle (at the U-joint)... if the hub is in "Auto", and the 4x4 is OFF, it should turn freely behind both wheels. If not, the hub is locked or damaged. Also, you could rotate the front drive shaft looking at the U-joints at the knuckles, and they BOTH should spin.
If you find your hub is sticking, most of the time the condition can be corrected by manually rotating the hub clockwise (lock), then counterclockwise (unlock [Auto]), and for good measure, back the truck up about 5'. Has always worked for me.