serious delimma
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Ok I have a serious delimma, well to me it is, I traded a racing lawn mower for a pure stock 64 F100 lwb, it has 85K miles on it. I mean this thing is bone stock, not a single after market part. It is cream with white top and has the small straight 6 with 3 on the tree. My problem is, should I go with a restore or should I do a engine swap and make a true hot rod out of it. I guess my question is which is more desirable, if I was to resale it? I want to basically rod the thing out(big block, chop top, CV front X-member), but afraid I might be destroying an investment if I do any of these....?
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Really it all depends on what you prefer IMHO. I am a resto mod type guy and love HP but really as anyone here will tell you you never get back what you put in unless you are real good at getting serious deals.
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Well.....since I believe you are asking for advice as to what we would suggest...
If it were me and the truck was very nice and original I would leave it alone..However if it is a rusted piece and needing lots of work and not going to be very original anyway I would rod it the way you deem necessary.Once it is rodded it is hard to go back original.
If it were me and the truck was very nice and original I would leave it alone..However if it is a rusted piece and needing lots of work and not going to be very original anyway I would rod it the way you deem necessary.Once it is rodded it is hard to go back original.
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Ok guys I added a pic maybe this will help with a better decision. As far as rust spots it has the typical cab corner (just passenger side) about the size of golf ball. other than that just surface rust in places. dings and dents (I've done my fair share of body work, about half gallon of bondo would do they whole truck). Motor is good, trans. has a small leak, like about the size of a eraser on a pencil a night in the drive. shifts good, hard to get into 2nd every once in awhile (believe problem there is in the column). Floor is good, seat is good. a little wear on drivers side, pass side looks like no one has ever sat there.
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I think I would fix what needs fixin' and drive it.
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I traded a jeep for mine. It is all original except the motor and tranny.
It now has a 390 hooked to a C6 trans and it growls.
I choose to drive it and tweak it and have fun.
can't wait for summer to enjoy it, on had it two months.
Mike
It now has a 390 hooked to a C6 trans and it growls.
I choose to drive it and tweak it and have fun.
can't wait for summer to enjoy it, on had it two months.
Mike
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Ok, well since it would be best to keep it original, what can I do to gain some performance on the straight 6? This thing is just so low gear and slow, about 65-70 down the road is pushing this thing hard. Is there alot if internal components available for the motor (small straight 6) or the transmission.
There might be a chance of getting a rebuilt 460BB w/ new c6 tranny.
There might be a chance of getting a rebuilt 460BB w/ new c6 tranny.
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So I have to say this is where it all went sideways for me. I have a 64 thought it would be nice to have PS and PB but didn't like the toyota steering box idea, and disc upgrade being chebby parts so I did a frame swap to a 75 which had a 460 and C-6 one thing lead to another and now I am thousands and thousands in did I mention thousands. Anyhow all that aside what my original plan was was to paint it and get power steering and brakes but because of the straight axle it changed everything.
if I was to do it again I would have done an aerostar or mustang II front end and kept my frame original just box it in at the front. replace rusted areas and paint it. But once I got into it there was no looking back, i have no regrets but would have done it different that's all. BTW my truck already had a Hi Perf 460 when it was on the 64 frame.
Do know if it helps but thought I would share my experience.
Just go slow.
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if I was to do it again I would have done an aerostar or mustang II front end and kept my frame original just box it in at the front. replace rusted areas and paint it. But once I got into it there was no looking back, i have no regrets but would have done it different that's all. BTW my truck already had a Hi Perf 460 when it was on the 64 frame.
Do know if it helps but thought I would share my experience.
Just go slow.
D
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Personally I am a stock man, but I would say as others have you need to look at what you want to do. If you are a person who wants a driver, then leave it stock and put a few creature comforts in it.
As for building up the engine the 223, 262 line doesn't have a lot you can do to it. If you could upgrade to a 300 six then you can do a ton. The 300 six is the very best engine that Ford has ever made. The other benefit of this engine is that it was used until the mid 90's and therefore you can possibly put a 5 speed behind it. For a Semi stock F-100 that is a pretty good way to go.
As for building up the engine the 223, 262 line doesn't have a lot you can do to it. If you could upgrade to a 300 six then you can do a ton. The 300 six is the very best engine that Ford has ever made. The other benefit of this engine is that it was used until the mid 90's and therefore you can possibly put a 5 speed behind it. For a Semi stock F-100 that is a pretty good way to go.
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You CAN put a T-5 tranny behind a 223 (see John Mummert's site) which will give you an overdrive. You can use an S10 tailshaft and the shifter will fall approximately where the original 4 speed tranny shift lever was). Also you can add a multi-carb manifold (Clifford is one supplier) with 3 deuces or a four barrel. And add dual exhaust (also Clifford but there are other suppliers for those as well)
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