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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Stupid mileage question

I just sold my 2005 F350 dually diesel and I'm looking for a new truck. It will be mostly a daily driver putting on approx. 300-400 miles per week and maybe once a year pull a 6,000# enclosed trailer. As stupid as it sounds, I have narrowed my choices down to 2 trucks. One is a newer Toyota Tundra mainly because of the fuel mileage and reliability and the other is a gas powered, 2008 or newer F250 superduty crewcab shortbed. My last two Fords have been diesels but with the new emissions equipment and poor fuel economy, I prefer to stay with gas this time. With that said, what could I expect for gas mileage out of a F250 superduty, preferably with 4:10 axle ratio. Also, I might install a 4" lift and 35" tires and a free flowing exhaust system, what could I then expect for mileage? Any input would be appreciated.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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9.5-12 mpg unloaded, 7-9 mpg with your 6k trailer. This is with my '99 F350 4x4 V10 CC SWB 4" lift on 35" tires 4.88:1 gears. My trailer is 7.6k and I get a solid 7 when towing on the interstate.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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a tundra or a 250? really? your kidding right? what's wrong with the 150?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Oh yea, forgot to mention that the Toyota is more of a fuel hog than an F-150, and I just can't get past the hideous looks of the Tundra either.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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you should do some research on the Tundra.. it aint as realiable as u might think..

just cuz its a Toyota, dont mean its perfect.. far from it...

my boss @ work had one (brand new), but he drives a Ford F150 now...his Toyota was at the dealership more times then he would put up with..

right from the day he took delivery he was unhappy...they screwed up his rearreverse camera option.. instead of being using the radios large LCD display they installed some tiny display in the rear view mirror and said they couldnt do anything about it...

that kind of soured his impression from that day forward..

his MPG was terrible aswell, and he never towed or hauled with it... great truck i suppose if u just wanan burn out stoplite to stoplite.. but why on earth have a truck for doing that anyways ???
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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I know it I am comparing apples to oranges but the only two brands of trucks I have owned are Ford's and Toyota's.
1988 Toyota, 1996 Tacoma, 2000 Tundra & currently 2003 Tacoma doublecab which is too small inside for me and I feel like I am sitting on the floor in it. Now as far as Fords, I have only owned solid axle Fords. 1988 F350 with 44's, 1977 F250 with 38's, 2002 F250 7.3 PSD and 2005 F350 dually with is sold tomorrow. I've never considered an F150. I love the look of the superduty and will go with a 250 over a 350 just to keep below 10,000 GVW since my state law is screwy with commercial plates. The perfect truck for me would be a F250 with 4" lift and 35X12.50/20's and Flowmaster 40 series duals. I am only concerned about the gas since right now I am spending $60/wk in a V6 Tacoma.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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well if your worried about mileage and want a new truck wait for 2011 superdutyit will get better milage
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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You can fit 35" tires without a lift if you need a taller tire. I think a lift will just increase drag and decrease your mileage. I think with the lift and tires you're looking at 10mpg regular driving with an F250. Friend has a Toyota that gets about 12mpg, but he's got a lift and tires.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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So far, and I drive like an old fart but, I'm getting about 14mpg easing around the outer hoods of flat sea level Tampa. I haven't taken a long enough trip without the 5th wheel in tow to get a good highway mileage report but towing our 8500 lb mid profile 5th wheel 60-65mph we got from high 7's to almost 9mpg on our 1250 mile trip last week. Headwinds kill mileage empty or towing highway. I haven't found Toyota's or Honda's to be any better or worse than Fords or Dodges but, given the choice, I'd take the F250 crew cab. Just bought mine a couple of weeks ago!:B
If you take a 5.4L for a test drive, it'll feel kinda sluggish. It's electronic throttle response ramp must look like a sway back mule. At exactly 100 miles, mine perked up a bit and the exhaust note changed. It's horses are in there but you have to push the loud peddle to wake them up. I kinda like it that way as it encourages better mileage. My previous Dodge was the same way but just a little more responsive to the peddle. The 5.4L Triton takes the Hemi at low rpm though. We spent way more time in O/D and direct towing while the Hemi liked 2nd gear at 4200rpm on the uphills more. The Hemi takes it at higher rpm but I prefer the low end grunt of the little 5.4L. A co-worker has a new Tundra. Heck of a nice truck but without hesitation I prefer the F250.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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before you make a decision you might wanna take a look at this. YouTube - Ford F150 vs Chevy vs Toyota - Bed Bounce might make you think twice before moving away from a ford. I would also look into a new f-150 they are some pretty powerful trucks compared to older models.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 02:09 AM
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Yeah I dont think its very fair to compare a 3/4 or 1 ton super duty to a half ton yota, even though the milleage aint going to be THAT different... If your lookin for an 08 and up gas then mine is getting 13-14 on the highway/country roads in warm weather but now since winter fuel is out I've dropped 1-2mpg. havent towed anything for long enough to get any towing mpg yet. Mine a long bed though, 350, V10.


Total to date is 13.2MPG (including everything) 7868.8 miles 594.58 gallons

If MPG is that much a concern that just 2-3mpg makes or breaks it, get a 150... it will pull your trailer just fine with a 5.4 and 3.73 and get you 2-3 better atleast than a SD while empty...
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 03:44 AM
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Hedgehog1, in your posts you mention that you drive 300 - 400 miles a week and are spending $60 a week. Just using those numbers, and a $2.50/gal price for gas. You're getting mileage in the 12.5 to 16.7 MPG.

If those numbers are accurate, it seems to me that a F250 with a 5.4 or a 6.8 Or a 5.4 F150, will have you far more comfortable then your Tacoma and keep you spending roughly the same amount on gas. FWIW, I have a 07 5.4 F150 4by. Over the life of my truck, so far, I'm averaging 15.7 MPG (80K miles).
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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That video is crazy. I thought for sure that the Toyota's bed was going to cause some damage to the cab or there was going to be some type of major failure of the suspension or bed attaching hardware.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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That video is crazy. I thought for sure that the Toyota's bed was going to cause some damage to the cab or there was going to be some type of major failure of the suspension or bed attaching hardware.
I found that when I was searching for a new truck. almost switched then saw how weak the tundra frame build is compared to the ford and couldn't bring myself to make the switch. (that and the fact that you can't get a tundra in a manual shift.)
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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I know several people that have baught the Tundra and every one is totally disapointed in their reliability and fuel mileage.. not like the other toyotas they make, this one is a lemon..
 
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