yeah it is a complete running motor

 

No question use the 460 ! Stroke = more low end. Bigger the stroke the lower the power band drops while creating more HP if everything is equal. Use the dove heads, truck rods, and match your pistons to 10 to 1 or so.
Don't forget the crazier you get with your cam (to improve your overall hp numbers) the more it raises your rpm range thus defeating your stock pulling styled capabilities.

I have a different build level combinations for HP output, if you would like to see what parts make what HP if your interested !

 

always interested. post it up

 

I have a 429CJ in my 70 Torino Cobra, the cam is retarded 4 degrees to get more low-end. It has plenty on top. When I have the extra cash, haha, I'm going to get a stroker kit for it and it will be a 520 with lower compression. It's a PITA to go to the local airport and get 100 low-lead whenever I want to drive it, 11.3 stock comp. I've been doing this for 12 yrs and as a result I don't drive it as much as I really want. No substitute for cubic inches.

 

Retarding the cam actually gives more top end. And if you go with a stroker make sure you get one thats compatable with the D0VE and earlier block. Most strokers are made for use with the D1VE and later blocks which have a slightly higher deck height. Also the stroker with the CJ heads is gonna be a ton of compression. If it was me I'd build a totally different stroker engine (D1VE block) with some aluminum heads and keep that CJ engine complete and original.

 

275-300HP 460ci

Intake System:

Holley 600-750 vacuum secondary
Edelbrock Performer (non-RPM) Intake Manifold

Cylinder Heads:

Heads can be D0VE or D3VE
(No Port work. Just good 3 angle valve job.)
Intake valve size 2.08
Exhaust valve size 1.65
Stock rockers.

Short Block:

Comp Cam Custom Spec Hydraulic flat tappet cam or equivalent
Based on the Xtreme Energy Hydraulic Series
Intake Lobe 5437 and Exhaust Lobe 5430
(Specs:240/250 adv., 196/206@.050, .476/.479 lift, 112 LSA)
Compression around 8.0:1
Stock crank
Stock rods
Standard volume oil pump
Stock oil pan

Exhaust:

Passenger cast-iron manifolds to dual 2.25" pipes with H-pipe. Good flowing 2.5" Magnaflow mufflers or equivalent.

Summary:

87-octane. Horsepower peak at 4,100 rpm. Keep redline to 5000 rpm.

300-325HP 460ci

Intake System:

Holley 750 vacuum secondary
Edelbrock Performer (non-Rpm) Intake Manifold

Cylinder Heads:

Heads can be D0VE or D3VE with mild port job
(315-ish/180-ish cfm @.600)
Intake valve size 2.08
Exhaust valve size 1.65
Stock rockers.

Short Block:

Comp Cam Custom Spec Hydraulic flat tappet cam or equivalent
Based on the Xtreme Energy Hydraulic Series
Intake Lobe 5430 and Exhaust Lobe 5232
(Specs:250/268 adv., 206/218@.050, .479/.493. lift, 112 LSA)
Compression around 9.0:1
Stock crank
Stock rods
Standard volume oil pump
Stock oil pan

Exhaust:

Passenger cast-iron manifolds to dual 2.25" pipes with H-pipe. Good flowing 2.5" Magnaflow mufflers or equivalent.

Summary:

91 octane. Horsepower peak at 4,500 rpm. Keep redline to 5500 rpm.

325-350HP 460ci

Intake System:

Holley 750 vacuum secondary
Edelbrock Performer (non-Rpm) Intake Manifold

Cylinder Heads:

Heads can be D0VE or D3VE with mild port job
(315-ish/180-ish cfm @.600)
Intake valve size 2.08
Exhaust valve size 1.65
Stock rockers

Short Block:

Comp Cam Custom Spec Hydraulic flat tappet cam or equivalent
Based on the Xtreme Energy Hydraulic Series
Intake Lobe 5430 and Exhaust Lobe 5232
(Specs:250/268 adv., 206/218@.050, .479/.493. lift, 110 LSA)
Compression around 9.0:1
Stock crank
Stock rods
Standard volume oil pump
Stock oil pan

Exhaust:

1.75" headers to dual 2.5" pipes with H-pipe. Good flowing 2.5" Magnaflow mufflers or equivalent.

Summary:

91 octane. Horsepower peak at 4,500 rpm. Keep redline to 5500 rpm.

350-375HP 460ci

Intake System:

Holley 750 vacuum secondary
Edelbrock Performer Rpm Intake Manifold

Cylinder Heads:

Heads can be D0VE or D3VE with mild port job
(315-ish/180-ish cfm @.600)
Intake valve size 2.08
Exhaust valve size 1.65
Stock rockers.

Short Block:

Comp Cam Custom Spec Hydraulic flat tappet cam or equivalent
Based on the Xtreme Energy Hydraulic Series
Intake Lobe 5430 and Exhaust Lobe 5232
(Specs:250/268 adv., 206/218@.050, .479/.493. lift, 110 LSA)
Compression around 9.0:1
Stock crank
Stock rods
Standard volume oil pump
Stock oil pan

Exhaust:

1.75" headers to dual 2.5" pipes with H-pipe. Good flowing 2.5" Magnaflow mufflers or equivalent.

Summary:

91 octane. Keep redline to 5500 rpm.

375-400HP 460ci

Intake System:

Holley 750 vacuum secondary
Edelbrock Performer Rpm Intake Manifold

Cylinder Heads:

Heads can be D0VE or D3VE with mild port job and port match
(315-ish/180-ish cfm @.600)
Intake valve size 2.08
Exhaust valve size 1.65
Stock rockers.

Short Block:

Comp Cam XE262H Hydraulic flat tappet cam or equivalent
(Specs:262/270 adv., 218/224@.050, .513/.520, 110 LSA)
Compression around 9:0:1
Stock crank
Stock rods with good bolts
Standard volume oil pump
Stock oil pan with windage tray

Exhaust:

1.75" headers to dual 2.5" pipes with H-pipe. Good flowing 2.5" Magnaflow mufflers or equivalent.

Summary:

91-octane. Keep redline to 6000 rpm.
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Intake System:

750cfm Holley DP professionally calibrated for your application
Edelbrock Performer Rpm Intake Manifold

Cylinder Heads:

D0VE heads with mild port job and chambers polished
(315ish/180-ish cfm flow @.600)
Intake valve size 2.08
Exhaust valve size 1.65
Stock rockers.

Short Block:

Comp Cam XE262H Hydraulic flat tappet cam or equivalent
(Specs:262/270 adv., 218/224@.050, .513/.520, 110 LSA)
Compression around 9.5:1
Stock crank
Stock rods with good bolts
Standard volume oil pump
Stock oil pan with windage tray

Exhaust:

1 7/8" headers to dual 2.5" pipes with H-pipe. Good flowing 2.5" Magnaflow mufflers or equivalent.

Summary:

91-octane. Keep redline to 6000 rpm.
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nice thats some good info

 

Oh brother here we go again.

Hey McQ... Nice copy and past of copyrighted information from 460ford. To bad most of it really is bogus. But hey, it's nice ot know you can copy and paste from your computer.

 

Moved to 385 series engine forum

 

glad i stocked up on popcorn this week

 

Fordsrgrt, I hope you buy you popcorn by the bushel !!

Dear Mr. Monsterator,

I'm starting to feel ,while attempting to produce some positive information to share, that I'm getting some special attention. I would like to personally thank you for the effort you choose to put into making sure the board stays interesting. I'm feeling a little insecure over the unfair and inaccurate accusation that I stole copyrighted information from someone else then attempted to play it off like I came up with it myself which is very untrue.

Yes I copied that information, not for the wrong reasons, but for the right reasons to share specific information with the readers so that they may learn, reference, or at least read it and dismiss it as they may choose if they should decide to do so.

Initially I would like to clearly point out that I posted the HP build chart as a request by the thread originator. Secondly I would like to point out for the record (as documentated) that people have already found it interesting.

Now I'm personally accused of copyrighted infringments? At this time I must stand up for myself and dispell all such hogwash. I would like to make a point of order that I am only answering false allagations made by monsters unknown!

Mr.Monsterator, apparentley you know just about as much about the copyright laws as you do about 385 series heads. The 1976 act of fair use of coyrighted material clearly holds us harmless from such claimed violations. Basically as long as it is used for learning purposes, criticism or comment (which this obviously is) and/or there is no personal gain involved which in this case, there clearly is not.
Here is a portion of the law:
§ 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use<SUP>40</SUP>

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.

So I do understand that you may have over reacted on your reckless claims. In the spirit of 385 togetherness, and furthering the mission of creating a better environment to progress overall higher learning, I will gladly accept yor appology! No big deal.

Thank you,

Jeff McCue
166 Lakeview Dr.
Wataga, IL 61488
309-337-8888
mccuegrics.net

 

Jeff You can find my name in my sig.

You are stepping in it BIG time and I suggest you back off and do some reading before you show yourself to be massively uninformed and make a huge mistake in your time on FTE.

As to the copy right laws I am fully aware of what they are and what is and is NOT allowed. But maybe you would care to read the guidelines you agreed to when you signed up for this site

Oh and if I had really felt you were in enough violation to cause serious issues your post would have been deleted as it should be anyway do to the fact that list is not accurate and isn't based on real dyno numbers.

But techinically your right, what you did is called plagerism.

What is Plagiarism?

But you ARE required to site the source of your information which you did NOT do.

You DID try to play it off as your information and everyone can see it. Show me where in Post 21 you wrote that the list came from ANY place except you?

In fact in the highlighted section you clearly state that YOU have a list, not that you know where one is or that you have seen one but that adn i will repeat it exactly "I have" a different build level combination's.
Problem is everyone on this site already knows that list and has seen it dozens of times and it's been discussed in the past. Trying to dazzle us with BS is not going to work on this site, you will find that there are some very good engine builders here that have heard most of your stuff before and see it for what it is.


consider this your warning my friend.

Now onto the rest of your comments, yes you are getting special attention due to posting false, misleading and otherwise proven bad info. You have attempted to "put me in my place" with your silly attempt about the D0VE called dove head jab and a bunch more. You have shown you do NOT know all that much except and are digging yourself a really big hole. Best idea when you find yourself in a hole is STOP DIGGING.

 

Dear Mr. Monsterator,

Your clearly abusing your authority as a moderator and poster because you have no valid position to the feeble gibberish you so freely spew out. I'm afraid I have people waiting for me right now so I painfully regret I must go, but I will be very happy to address each and every one of your points in the morning.

I'm very sorry for my early departure, please excuse me. I promise I will make up for my early hasty withdraw from the topics at hand in the morning.

Jeff McCue