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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Superchip vs Tuning

I am new to this forum. I am getting my 05 V10 Excursion tomorrow.

Which is the better option for improved MPG and towing for the money? Everything else is stock right now but will be adding a cold air intake at some point.

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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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Talk to Mike at 5-Star tuning, he can make your V10 run worlds better than it already does. I think theres a group buy going on in the Vendor section, check it out.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Toreador_Diesel
Talk to Mike at 5-Star tuning, he can make your V10 run worlds better than it already does. I think theres a group buy going on in the Vendor section, check it out.
+1 for Mike at 5-Star.

See my post on my results: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...tar-tunes.html

Well worth the money, IMHO.

I wouldn't spend the $$ on a cold air intake. There's several threads on here, but general consensus is they're not worth the hype or money. If the tuner doesn't give you big enough gains, then you need to work on the gears and exhaust.

What are you towing? What will normal usage be? Unless you're going to be doing a huge amount of towing or in some pretty extreme conditions, you don't need a lot of performance gain. And the best single mod you can make for improved mileage is to reduce the weight in your right foot.

Let us know what you're trying to accomplish, and we can help you get there.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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I will be pulling a 25' 3500# camper right now and we go all over the midwest for rodeos and outings. I know the Ex can easily pull 11000# that is why I am getting it. I was pulling the camper with a Suburban rated at 8200# but it did not perform very well so needed to upgrade.

What I want to accomplish most is better MPG on the highway and when towing without losing the pulling power going up the hills.

Thanks for the input!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by amkkba
I will be pulling a 25' 3500# camper right now and we go all over the midwest for rodeos and outings. I know the Ex can easily pull 11000# that is why I am getting it. I was pulling the camper with a Suburban rated at 8200# but it did not perform very well so needed to upgrade.

What I want to accomplish most is better MPG on the highway and when towing without losing the pulling power going up the hills.

Thanks for the input!
For what you're doing, I wouldn't worry about a whole lot of mods. Start with the 5-Star tuner. If that doesn't get you enough, then I'd look at a gear swap next (assuming you're equipped with 3.73s like mine).

The tuner should be more than sufficient for what you're towing, but if you just gotta be able to get from 0-60 in less than 6 seconds with your trailer on the back, the gears would be the next big upgrade. Exhaust should get you a little more, but that would be my 3rd priority.

You're gonna love this truck.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 02:09 AM
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Thanks for the advice! I will be looking at the tuner.

I fell in love with this truck the first time I test drove it. It drove circles around my suburban. We have been looking for one for over a year that was reasonable priced and we finally found one with only 50k miles.

 
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DP-Tuner is an Excellent choice too. Superchips, Hyperjunk, Jet, etc, etc is basically like getting a suit for a 35yo Black Male. Think that will fit as well as a suit done by a tailor that gets some measurements from you?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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... is basically like getting a suit for a 35yo Black Male. Think that will fit as well as a suit done by a tailor that gets some measurements from you?
I'm not sure what that analogy means, but I'm having trouble finding any way that it can be appropriate. Not ready to report it yet, because I may be missing something that makes sense, but I'm not seeing any value here...
 
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I'm not sure what that analogy means, but I'm having trouble finding any way that it can be appropriate. Not ready to report it yet, because I may be missing something that makes sense, but I'm not seeing any value here...
Those chips are very generic to just the year and a little more data. It is not tailored to whatever mods you have. It would be like trying to buy a suit with just the age and race of the person. You have to make a lot of SWAGs about the person's dimensions. What information does hyperjunk or superchips use to get you a program? 2000 Ford diesel. Kinda like "Give me a suit that fits a 35 yo Black male." No ht, wt, arm length, leg length, etc, etc. You can get a suit made based on the average dimensions of such a customer but chances are it won't fit well.
 
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i had a gmc 1500 suburban with a 350. and i tow a 30ft #7000 fleetwood prowler. the 'burb was a fine vehicle. but the EX is a towing beast. you notice the difference as soon as you hitch up and pull out. welcome to the club.
 
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Originally Posted by aklim
Those chips are very generic to just the year and a little more data. It is not tailored to whatever mods you have. It would be like trying to buy a suit with just the age and race of the person. You have to make a lot of SWAGs about the person's dimensions. What information does hyperjunk or superchips use to get you a program? 2000 Ford diesel. Kinda like "Give me a suit that fits a 35 yo Black male." No ht, wt, arm length, leg length, etc, etc. You can get a suit made based on the average dimensions of such a customer but chances are it won't fit well.
Correct!

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