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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob.D
The only way the SCTX3 route is 3 times cheaper is if your not running gauges. If your not running guages your asking for trouble. Also the Spartan Phalanx can read and delete codes.

Sct reads and clears code as well. With the money I saved on the SCT over the Spartan, I could take it and buy enough gauges to line the entire interior like a chrismas tree.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Kuuner
Sct reads and clears code as well. With the money I saved on the SCT over the Spartan, I could take it and buy enough gauges to line the entire interior like a chrismas tree.
True, you could mount all those guages if you've got a week to burn. Other than running a egt sensor I simply plugged my Phalanx into OBD port and I've got everything + I can data log.


I'm bowing out of this discussion
 
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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I ran an edge for a while ,, the nice thing about the tuner type gauges is the alarms you can set ,, it's hard to watch analogue gauges constantly ,, ps I am not endorsing the edge by any means ,, ps i have one for sale lol
 
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Mike - Thanks for your service ! It IS appreciated !!!
My nephew did 3 tours as a medic attached to a marine squad....
Thrilled he decided to retire from that

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My $.02 on the tuner/gauges question is the same as always,
but I don't sell these products so I really don't have a dog in this hunt

The main concern with most tuners are 3 fold:
1) high egt's
2) high combustion chamber pressure from improper tuning
3) Tranny tuning to match the new engine performance (Edge was(is?) infamous for ruining trannies)

been on here a while and had 3 tuned Ex's and
watching others with similar vehicles testing the limits I knew what to address..

1) Stock Exhaust is the worst culprit for high egt's...
So addressed the exhaust bottleneck with a free flowing muffler which
eliminated the need to measure egt's in my case...
Getting a cooler intake charge helps egt's as well..

2) High pressures are caused by improper tuning....
Alleviated that by going to a KNOWN good tuner for a proven tune....

3) this same proven tuner makes the tranny happy as well...

100K miles later am still running fine on stock everything else...
So, IMHO, gauges ARE not necessarily required if you don't go past known parameters....
and ALL those are controlled by your right foot and common sense
 
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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Fuel Pressure IMO is a must - unless you don't mind risking an injector repair bill. The DashDAQ does not do this one.

EOT and ECT monitoring is also a must IMO to ensure you catch a plugging oil cooler before it takes out the EGR cooler.

These gauges aren't the easiest or cheapest to install. But I think they are needed - "tuned" or not.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Gauges are nice to watch, but not needed unless you work your truck extremely hard or Dog it out. Good exhaust and a little common sense will work wonder with a lightly modded truck. I believe with a good tuner and a SCT you would have to try hard to hurt these trucks.
Met a fellow 6.0 driver at the pump yesterday 292K with only 3 injectors since new.
he had no gauges either.

My .02
 
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