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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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Well, I had a v10 it was OK, I guess....never buy another...
Just curious as to why?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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I wish ford would bring back the 7.3 no matter what green peace...
That would be nice for the reliability factor for sure. Plus the MPG factor.

Lets just hope this new diesel thats coming out, has it all!
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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I hope your right .....The 6.7 better have lots of hp and torque and good mpg or I will put a cummins or a 7.3 engine in my F350.... That's what should be in F350,F450 now!!!! I know you can order a cummins in a F550 and F650...
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 12:11 PM
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Putting a cummins in your F350 won`t be inexpensive though it just may be worth it in the end.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fomoko1
Putting a cummins in your F350 won`t be inexpensive though it just may be worth it in the end.
Agreed.

I dont know if I would do a swap like that on a truck that the engine is working good either. I always told myself I would do this swap on my own truck when the 7.3 piles up, and Ive often thought about getting a 6 liter truck that the motor is no good in and doing the swap.

To swap out a good working motor though, man I dunno!!!

Your from alberta though, your probably swimming in the cash, just some chump change for you eh 429? lol
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 429 merc
I hope your right .....The 6.7 better have lots of hp and torque and good mpg or I will put a cummins or a 7.3 engine in my F350.... That's what should be in F350,F450 now!!!! I know you can order a cummins in a F550 and F650...
The swap into a daily driver would undo reliability - it would make it a project vehicle. I know that the 6.0 was sub-standard in failure rates, but with the head bolts replaced with studs, the EGR valve shut off, the EGR cooler blocked, and some custom SCT tunes from Innovative it became one hell of a package (mine went from being a lemon to one of my favorite vehicles ever - damn 8000# Mustang killer).

The 6.4 with DPF delete and either Spartan or H&S (thanks to Mike for pointing these guys out to me!!!) tuning becomes the same, just better!
Just as soon as a few of my issues are worked through mine will get the treatment!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by preppypyro
Agreed.

I dont know if I would do a swap like that on a truck that the engine is working good either. I always told myself I would do this swap on my own truck when the 7.3 piles up, and Ive often thought about getting a 6 liter truck that the motor is no good in and doing the swap.

To swap out a good working motor though, man I dunno!!!

Your from alberta though, your probably swimming in the cash, just some chump change for you eh 429? lol
I want to build a swimming pool so I can swim in cash, as long as leaves can be substituted for cash...I got the leaves already does that count? Not everybody in Alberta has a oil well in their back pocket.lol I will not do the swap but it would be a blast if i did. (I do have a cummins engine) I will wait for the new 6.7 to see if it is good or not... If not I will go look at dodge only because of the big bad cummins!! (it will break my heart)
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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The newest cummins may break your heart as well.
I maybe wrong here but I`m wondering if they are near as bullet proof and as good as the older ones....
I dunno know so I`m asking.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LaredoF350
The swap into a daily driver would undo reliability - it would make it a project vehicle.
Thats debatable. IF you went and threw (for example) a 5.9 that was basically stock, or just had a few bolt on mods, plus used all the right brackets, mounts and connections to hook it up, your not really compromising the reliability factor, of that engine, or that truck. I mean the truck will be as reliable as THAT truck can be, same with the engine. (I would think anyways)

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If not I will go look at dodge only because of the big bad cummins!! (it will break my heart)
That would break our hearts too Tony!!

Ive said it time and time again though, I am a fan of the cummins engine, but I would not buy a dodge truck. Ive been in enough of them to know I just do not like them.

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The newest cummins may break your heart as well.
I maybe wrong here but I`m wondering if they are near as bullet proof and as good as the older ones....
Yeah I believe your right too. Everyone I have talked to that has a new one, wishes they never got rid of the old 5.9. They are supposed to be decent engines still, but like every diesel manufacturer, they are having a tough time perfecting all the emissions crap.

Im afraid the days of the "good" diesels are gone. I sure hope the 6.7 ford proves me wrong though, but after the last few attempts (not just by ford either) its hard to think positive!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by preppypyro
Thats debatable. IF you went and threw (for example) a 5.9 that was basically stock, or just had a few bolt on mods, plus used all the right brackets, mounts and connections to hook it up, your not really compromising the reliability factor, of that engine, or that truck. I mean the truck will be as reliable as THAT truck can be, same with the engine. (I would think anyways)
My feelings are that if you are making a toy truck thats okay, but for a daily driver I feel it would be a butchered truck!

Im afraid the days of the "good" diesels are gone. I sure hope the 6.7 ford proves me wrong though, but after the last few attempts (not just by ford either) its hard to think positive!
I agree totally - I would have never thought the day would come when you could no longer get a Cat engine in a big truck! The emissions thing has added so much junk to these engines that mileage is not acceptable, and the maintenance (a good part of it anyways) of the emissions related stuff is what gets cost prohibitive when warranty lapses.

Fuel is headed for an all time high again - watch your wallets come spring/summer. There will be some cheap trucks again...
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LaredoF350
My feelings are that if you are making a toy truck thats okay, but for a daily driver I feel it would be a butchered truck!
Yeah I can see why you would feel that way for sure. I know to take it on long trips and whatnot, I would want to make sure its done right!

I have a little more confidence in that crap though. Im the kinda guy that if I do something, like that, I will check my work ten times over to make sure its done in a way I feel comfortable with it.
Whether that is good or not has yet to be determined though haha.

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Fuel is headed for an all time high again - watch your wallets come spring/summer. There will be some cheap trucks again...
I hope your very wrong here. Although I wouldnt mind getting a cheap diesel dually.
Im curious though, why do you think the price of fuel will get to be an all time high this up coming year?

Might be time to get a dedicated diesel tank or two and fill them up.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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I just couldnt fathom spending that much time doing something that didnt make me money, but I guess I have always had my nose to the grindstone...
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 01:59 AM
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I had the exact same issue with my truck with high boost. Mine would only do it in temps below -27 C. I had alot of time to examine this problem last winter when I was running back and forth to northern Alberta once a week and heres what I found:

Speeds between 65-75 mph do not put enough load on the engine to properly warm the engine up or keep it warm when not loaded.

Driving 85+ mph(or towing) will put enough load on the engine to warm it up and allow it run properly, but if you slow down back to 70 mph it takes about 20 minutes for the engine to cool and the high boost condition will return.

A good winter front and cardboard between the intercooler and rad are a necessity below -25 and will help the high boost issue but if it goes below -35theres nothing you can do to keep the engine warm short of towing 15000 lbs.

If you leave the cardboard between the rad and intercooler at temperatures above -10 your engine oil temperature will heat up. It will be within the limits but will be at the high end of the scale.

Fuel economy will only be normal if the high boost condition is not present.

Talking to the dealer about it useless.

The good news is that its a programming issue and if you still plan on getting a spartan tuner the problem is fixed in their tunes.

Hope this helps....
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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Mike, how has your truck been doing for economy? Seems like I remember you saying you got really good economy out of yours.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rcmgiasson
Fuel economy will only be normal if the high boost condition is not present.

Talking to the dealer about it useless.

The good news is that its a programming issue and if you still plan on getting a spartan tuner the problem is fixed in their tunes.

Hope this helps....
Thanks Mike, I was at the dealer yesterday and it all checked out normal... imagine that!!!
The only code was an overspeed condition (due to 160 kph being exceeded with my bigger tires). I told my Mom not to drive it too fast!!!
Tuner/dpf delete is in the plans.
Oh ya, dealer has 8 2011 trucks coming w/6.7's and 2 are sold already. Pricing is not available yet.
 
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