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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Thanks Robin! I would rep ya but I got spread it around some more.

I really need to pick up a volt meter.
Just a cheap test light could help you narrow it down.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:20 AM
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Alright still a clickin!

When I turn the key, the sound is definitely from the relay. If I unhook that cable and try to jump it via my battery using jumper cables, I get nothing at all.

I kept turning the key over and over while my friend tapped the starter and I got it to turn once but unfortunately I let go of the key.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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I vote for starter replacement.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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Well I put in a new starter and it sounds great turning over. However, I still get the clicks too.

Starter relay? What cost am I looking at?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Clicks or buzz?...I only get clickin and buzzin if my battery terminals are dirty.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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Well I put in a new starter and it sounds great turning over. However, I still get the clicks too.

Starter relay? What cost am I looking at?
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Clicks or buzz?...sounds like batteries
I vote for loose battery connection...
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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I've solved a lot of starting problems on various vehicles by simply installing a jumper wire between the alternator output post and the positive terminal of the battery.
In addition, install a dedicated ground wire for the alternator to the same battery.
Pictures always help.

 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Occasional click and then I can go to town on it over and over again and occasionally it will turn over.


Brand new batts and starter.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:04 AM
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Occasional click and then I can go to town on it over and over again and occasionally it will turn over.


Brand new batts and starter.
We're thinking the culprit are your cables and/or connections, not the batteries themselves. A loose connection (even one that seems tight) can cause a lot of problems.

Interesting rigging there Dan.
 
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We're thinking the culprit are your cables and/or connections, not the batteries themselves. A loose connection (even one that seems tight) can cause a lot of problems.

Interesting rigging there Dan.
Exactly!
A chain is only as strong as the weakest link.

Ever since I installed that wiring harness, the volt gauge on the truck has moved up to a slightly higher position.
And the voltage at the batteries are exactly the same as the voltage at the output post of the alternator.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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Dan, thank you for the picture. I don't know if you have done a simple write up on how to create such a mod but it could be very helpful for others. While I get the basic idea and I have even taken an engine out and put it back in my truck, I wouldn't dare rig something up like that without reading a good write up on it first.

I am dead nervous about things that I don't get laid out crystal clear before I try it.


Once the sun comes up I am going to try and make it to town and solve my gelling issue. If I can figure that out then I hope to make it the 1.2 hours down to the "big" city of Wasilla where hopefully I can get some new bolts for the battery cables. They are rather loose.
 
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Starting issue seems to go away when cold and happen when hot.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
I've solved a lot of starting problems on various vehicles by simply installing a jumper wire between the alternator output post and the positive terminal of the battery.
In addition, install a dedicated ground wire for the alternator to the same battery.
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That's a great idea. You're just putting the hot wire in parallel instead of series. Ground wire sounds great as well. Good post and reps to you.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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I had this very same issue with an old 78 Bronco I had. (351M) I changed countless starter relays since it would fire each time I changed one, just figured it was goin thru them for some reason I couldnt figure out. Turns out, It was the main ground wire at the frame. Followed the ground wire from the battery, cleaned it up, never had another problem....

Wish I still had that Bronco....
 
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