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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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ok so far when it stalls the lights do not turn off. i still hear a fuel pump run but this does not mean the in tank pump could be bad. i am going to get a fuel pressure guage and see if it looses fuel. i think the ignition is shutting off for some resone going to look into that as well
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Are you saying the fuel pumps still run after the engine stalls and does not restart?
If so it sounds more like a computer problem than fuel. I would guess that the fuel injectors stop firing is why it stalled.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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it restarts right after it stalls no problem it just stalls agina soon after and yes i still hear the pump run after it stalls
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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if you put the key in, turn to run, not start, exactly how long does the pump run?

2 seconds?

10 seconds?

runs and never stops?

that is the question.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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just ran out and tryed it it primes for 2 seconds
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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then the computer is probably not the problem.

a classic sign of bad computer is fuel pump that keeps on running.

when you said it was running then we had to clear up what you meant.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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gotcha


going to see if the coil is loosing power tomarrow then it's the last idea i have.


the bummer is it runs really well untill it stalls
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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i do not want to read all this again, have you checked the codes lately?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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nope i will do that tomarrow
 
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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i got 11, 81, 87

11 is fine it just means the system is working and 81 is just the removed air system


never mind i am retarded it is code 87 in continues memory
 
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Old Oct 29, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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finaly figured it out. the relay is bad. or the wiring.

with the key on engine off if i hit the relay with a ratchet i hear the fuel pump re-prime every time i hit it. and i didn't even hit it vary hard. also noticed the relay gets hot.

so going to solder the wiring together (when it was replaced they twisted the wires and taped them) then see if it still does it. if it does i will replace the relay
 
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 07:26 PM
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no more codes still stalls

well replaced the relay and re-did the wiring. it still stalls


so i hooked up a timing light to the coil wiring going to the Distributer cap and watched the blinking light as it ran. when ever it missed or stumbled the light would not blink it also would no longer blink when it stalls. so i think i am getting closer going to replace the plug wires they look like they have been on there a wile and the coil looks original.


will see what happens


also another interesting tid bit if i have a battery charger or jumper cables on the truck it will not stall but it i let it run off it's own battery and alt it stalls. weird (it stumbles and still loses spark but will not stop running)
 
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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Check your alternator output while running, if the voltage is low it will not run right.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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alt puts out 13.9v-14.5v with the truck running (using a DVOM the guage in the truck is a little on the low side to what it really is) batt reads 10.8v with the surfice charge off it (why i had to jump it and bought a batt charger)
 
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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also another interesting tid bit if i have a battery charger or jumper cables on the truck it will not stall but it i let it run off it's own battery and alt it stalls. weird (it stumbles and still loses spark but will not stop running)

How many volts does the system have while the truck is running, does it hold a steady 14 to 15 volts? When you turn on the head lights it should drop then come right back up.

If the voltage is intermittently dropping down to low, it maybe in part the cause of your troubles.
Dead short / dieing cell in the battery or alternator problems, by giving it a jump or having a battery charger attached that is making up for or masking the sudden system drop.
 
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