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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DBGrif91
Yeah I was having a brain fart moment. Surprisingly that doesn't happen more often with me.
I suffer from such moments myself. If not that, then I get old timers disease. Sometimes I'll forget where I placed my head.......but I have learned it is usually with my car keys.

Now what did I do with those keys?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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Did you try a coolant temperature sensor? If the sensor is falsely telling the computer it's -40* the computer dumps gobs of fuel to compensate. That will give you the black smoke, big time.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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I think you mean the Cold Air Sensor. Do these trucks have one? I know my old Bronco II did.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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No, I mean the coolant temperature sensor. If the temperature sensor is stuck sending a voltage signal to the computer indicating -40*, the computer thinks the engine and surrounding air are -40*. The computer makes a really rich mixture to compensate. Even when the engine warms up, the faulty sensor can still be sending the -40* signal.

When my truck had the rich problem very similar to what you describe, I actually changed the coolant temperature sensor. Turns out it was the fuel pressure regulator in my case, but either of the two components could create a similar rich effect.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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We thought of that yesterday. I will have him order one for tomorrow and see if that works.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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I have my fingers crossed.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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How did you test the fuel pressure? Did you check it while running? A weak fuel pump can sometimes provide enough fuel to idle or run under light throttle, but starve out when you give it more gas. BTDT
 
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Coolant sensor didnt work. The fuel was checked with a fuel pressure gauge. Good pressure all the time. Owner is going to get the control module and computer off a different truck and we will see if that works. If not, has to be in the wiring.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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I didn't read anywhere that you checked for codes. Even if the cel isn't lit up, the computer might have stored something.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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Yep, checked for codes, nothing!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 05:13 AM
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Mine did that kind of thing. I finally took it to a mechanic and he found that I must've dropped the sparkplug in #7 and then put it in with the electrode bent totally closed gap. Somewhere you have a dead miss. You need to find it. Maybe you have a bad valve, maybe a dead plug or spark plug wire.Check that the wires are actually snapped on at both ends. Ford distributor caps are nicer than the parts house ones but I see no difference in the rotor.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Mine did that kind of thing. I finally took it to a mechanic and he found that I must've dropped the sparkplug in #7 and then put it in with the electrode bent totally closed gap. Somewhere you have a dead miss. You need to find it. Maybe you have a bad valve, maybe a dead plug or spark plug wire.Check that the wires are actually snapped on at both ends. Ford distributor caps are nicer than the parts house ones but I see no difference in the rotor.
Thats not the problem.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Have you used a B.O.B. (Break Out Box)? I used one on my truck recently. It plugs in between the computer and 60 computer connector. It allows you to pin out all 60 pins with the engine running. It's really helpful and useful. I discovered that my O2 sensor was stuck reading .030V in and out of the computer.
 
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