Unexpected "Cash For Clunkers" Consequence??
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Unexpected "Cash For Clunkers" Consequence??
Hi To All,
I don't have all of the details about this, but it raises some questions that maybe some can answer. Here's the story:
My son lives in Reno, NV and was recently given a GORGEOUS 2001 Camaro for$50 that is in need of an engine. he contacted all of the local boneyards/recyclers and was told that they no longer are allowed to sell used engines due to rules stemming from the cash for clunkers program. They all told him that they are now required to fill used engines with what they called "liquid glass" to make sure that these engines don't make it back onto the roads. They also told him that these regulations are in force in at least in California, Nevada and Arizona. Has anyone heard of this?
Thanks,
Gene
I don't have all of the details about this, but it raises some questions that maybe some can answer. Here's the story:
My son lives in Reno, NV and was recently given a GORGEOUS 2001 Camaro for$50 that is in need of an engine. he contacted all of the local boneyards/recyclers and was told that they no longer are allowed to sell used engines due to rules stemming from the cash for clunkers program. They all told him that they are now required to fill used engines with what they called "liquid glass" to make sure that these engines don't make it back onto the roads. They also told him that these regulations are in force in at least in California, Nevada and Arizona. Has anyone heard of this?
Thanks,
Gene
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I have a friend that is a Ford Dealer in Salt Lake City. He has enlightened me in some aspects of the Cash for Clunkers program. It is true that the Dealer that took in the vehicle was required to disable the engine. As you said, fill with liquid glass. The remaining parts are able to be recycled by the recycling yard the dealer sells that particular traded in vehicle to. If the engine you are wanting comes from a Cash for Clunkers vehicle, then it isn't any good as it has been rendered useless as provided by law. That is anywhere in the U.S., not just the Western U.S.
I'm sure there were some 2001 Camaros that were disposed of as Cash for Clunkers, but it is highly doubtful that ALL Chevvy engines that would fit into a 2001 Camaro have been rendered useless and were from Cash for Clunkers cars. Try another and another wrecking yard until you find one that will work. You should come out with a very nice car. There is many engines out there that will work.
I'm sure there were some 2001 Camaros that were disposed of as Cash for Clunkers, but it is highly doubtful that ALL Chevvy engines that would fit into a 2001 Camaro have been rendered useless and were from Cash for Clunkers cars. Try another and another wrecking yard until you find one that will work. You should come out with a very nice car. There is many engines out there that will work.
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Search the wrecking yards online, saves a lot of wasted phone calls.
Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market
Doing a quick search I only found a couple in Utah but lots in the southwest.
Good Luck,
Bob
Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market
Doing a quick search I only found a couple in Utah but lots in the southwest.
Good Luck,
Bob
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The vehicles taken in for any government buy back program must have the engine destroyed. That doesn't mean that a wrecking yard can't sell a used engine, just not one out of a buy back vehicle. Ecology Auto Recycling handles those cars here in SD. They punch the block with a hydraulic jackhammer on a bobcat then put the car in the yard for a couple of weeks before crushing them.
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Don't make sense. throw away what it took to make those auto's, motor's (energy). Then have to buy another new whole car that cost more energy and pollution to make. Seemed the imports came out on the good end of that program? Wonder if I'll be bailing out all those cars loan's. Wonder if those new car owners figured out yet, going to cost them lot more than if they would of just fixed the other one? What I seen, there was a lot of nice auto's junked.
ME AND MY TRUCK TO OLD CLUNCKERS.
ME AND MY TRUCK TO OLD CLUNCKERS.
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Oh Boy,
anderson sc, I hear ya, don't get me goin'!!!!!
Our "elected" criminals have their heads so far up that another inch or so and they'll start to see light again. I just threw this subject out looking for info.
Thanks
Gene
anderson sc, I hear ya, don't get me goin'!!!!!
Our "elected" criminals have their heads so far up that another inch or so and they'll start to see light again. I just threw this subject out looking for info.
Thanks
Gene
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Well, now you know that junkyard guy is a liar, and probably a crook to boot, so you have been saved from doing business with him....
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Within the past 2 months I have seen trucks from 61-72 Fords turned in for "Cash for Clunkers" And guess what? With the economy the way it is hardly anyones buying body parts or other useable parts from these trucks. I, and a couple of other fellas would pull parts for a few other truck hobbyist from back east for their trucks. This was going well until recently, now no one wants to buy or can afford to buy, so we have a big inventory and have to watch these trucks get smashed because we can't afford to house the parts until economy gets better. We're lucky to get the same price we pay for these parts, labor not included. So we are all taken a hit by this. As if that's not enough, the local yards have been increasing prices where we can't afford to purchase for re-sale. So all these trucks with the exceptions of a few parts will get smashed.
What was once an everyday hobby is now a once a week trip. I can no longer afford to get parts and re sale. Once our inventory dies down that's it. On to a new hobby.
What was once an everyday hobby is now a once a week trip. I can no longer afford to get parts and re sale. Once our inventory dies down that's it. On to a new hobby.
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Sorry to hear that your hobby has taken a hit. Those of us here in the rust belt would love to have rust free parts but yep, we have temporarily run out of money and I am afraid it will get worse before it gets better.
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I doubt you will find a long line at the dealerships with people waiting to buy one of their new "crate" engines at the beginning prices which are in the 3 to 4 thousand dollar bracket! After all, this stimulus was for the government, (they own GM and Chrysler, mostly anyway), and it helped them get a start on selling out their inventory of overbuilt vehicles.......... Oh, the tangled web we weave.........
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How can that be?? One of the requirements was that they can be no older than 25 years......older than 1984 didn't get the money. Sorry to hear that your hobby has taken a hit. Those of us here in the rust belt would love to have rust free parts but yep, we have temporarily run out of money and I am afraid it will get worse before it gets better.
Sorry to hear that your hobby has taken a hit. Those of us here in the rust belt would love to have rust free parts but yep, we have temporarily run out of money and I am afraid it will get worse before it gets better.
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Today Saturday 10-17-09 One yard had (1) 1971 ford f100 and (1) 1972 f100 spray painted "clunkers" One other yard had a 1966 in the back area not ready for the main strip area that had "clunker" spray painted on it. I will go back when that one hits the yard. I wish I had an answer for you but I call it as I see it.
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Today Saturday 10-17-09 One yard had (1) 1971 ford f100 and (1) 1972 f100 spray painted "clunkers" One other yard had a 1966 in the back area not ready for the main strip area that had "clunker" spray painted on it. I will go back when that one hits the yard. I wish I had an answer for you but I call it as I see it.
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The biggest problem we had was not the clunker program but the increase in steel prices last year. All the bone yards I could get decent parts from were crushing our trucks in over drive for big bucks thanks to speculators. All those steel trucks and cars are gone brother.
As far as the tax payer bail out goes, decreasing inventory will help them sell more "green" cars. I thought it was an "iceage coming" back in the 70's, now it's global warming. I'd sell you all carbon credits but it's illegal on this blog
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As far as the tax payer bail out goes, decreasing inventory will help them sell more "green" cars. I thought it was an "iceage coming" back in the 70's, now it's global warming. I'd sell you all carbon credits but it's illegal on this blog
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