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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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What is the best synthic oil for the pwrstrokes?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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I'd be running Rotella-T Synthetic 5W-40 or Mobil1 TDT. Any of the name brand HDEO's are good, though. I just see a lot of great UOA's with Rotella-T Synthetic 5W-40.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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Not sure what your definition of "best" is, but if your not going to use the specified Motorcraft product, that's already been tested, choose a crankcase lube that says it meets or exceeds Fords specifications for the specified lube called out in your owners manual, for your operating conditions & the type of driving you'll be doing.

Maybe on Bitog look up some UOA's of different lube brands used in this engine, in areas similar to yours & under similar operating conditions, to get feel for the average wear numbers you might expect, then do an oil analisis to see how your wear numbes compare against those averages.

Don't forget quality filtration, it's often overlooked in this equation & imo it is as important as the crankcase lube we choose & the OCI we use!!!!

More lube thoughts to ponder.
Let us know how it goes.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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The single most important lube characteristic for the older Powerstrokes is anti-foaming, due to the unique injector design. Therefore, any synthetic MUST be an HDEO, that is, API CI-4 or CJ-4. PCMO's, like API SM, even combned with CF, such as regular Mobil One, can cause problems. I'm sure there are non-API oils from Amsoil, Redline or others that will work fine, but you are taking a risk.

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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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I also would like to know what synthetic oil would be best for the 2003 7.3 that spends a lot of time in cold wheather but also travels to Florida pulling a camper??? I am currently using Rotella t 15/40 dino oil and would like to go to synthetic.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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I can't help but keep recommending Rotella-T 5W-40. And there is a new Rotella-T6 5W-40 that's even thinner during start up. Great price and great oil. You can run 5W-40 year round, btw. They both are 40 weight when warm (5W-40 or 15W-40).
 
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 06:19 AM
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Thanks for the replies to everyone, I would really like to use the syn 5/40 but you always are wondering if you are doing the right thing.By best pawpaw, I mean what would be the greatest lubricating job out there.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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The best recipe lube & oil filter construction out there, are the one's that'll keep your engine the cleanest & produce the lowest UOA wear numbers, for your engine/drive train combo, doing the type of driving you do, in type of enviorment your operating in, for the OCI you choose!!!!
 
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
The single most important lube characteristic for the older Powerstrokes is anti-foaming, due to the unique injector design. Therefore, any synthetic MUST be an HDEO, that is, API CI-4 or CJ-4. PCMO's, like API SM, even combned with CF, such as regular Mobil One, can cause problems. I'm sure there are non-API oils from Amsoil, Redline or others that will work fine, but you are taking a risk.

Jim

Why are you not looking at the ACEA E sequences, which are much tougher standards to meet.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Man 03
I would really like to use the syn 5/40 but you always are wondering if you are doing the right thing.
What do you mean? It is the right thing if money permits. It's still just as thick as 15W-40 at operating temperature, the only difference is, it's CLOSER to that thickness the whole way there during warm up. Better performance, gas mileage, and lubrication.


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Why are you not looking at the ACEA E sequences, which are much tougher standards to meet.
I thought ACEA was Euro? Not saying it isn't more stringent, just saying, we tend to look at American specs around here.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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ACEA is euro, hard to find in USA, but when you get it, the oil is of exceptional quality if you get the recent year (2008/09) E sequences.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
The single most important lube characteristic for the older Powerstrokes is anti-foaming, due to the unique injector design. Therefore, any synthetic MUST be an HDEO, that is, API CI-4 or CJ-4. PCMO's, like API SM, even combned with CF, such as regular Mobil One, can cause problems. I'm sure there are non-API oils from Amsoil, Redline or others that will work fine, but you are taking a risk.
API is not some government watchdog that is looking out for the interests of the consumer, it is an organization made up of members from the oil industry. To protect their interests, they have made an uneven playing field. Dino oils that use the same additive package can be "cross certified" - that is to say if you get your 10w-30 oil with additive package xyz certified, you can automatically certify any weight oil that uses that same additive package. However, they do not extend that same courtesy to synthetic (group IV or V) oils. Each individual weight oil must be certified separately which obviously can get quite expensive.

In order to be API certified, an oil & additive package have to meet Minimum requirements... there are no brownie points awarded for exceeding these requirements.

Remember this every time you walk into a government building - it was built by the lowest bidder.
 
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