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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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Can we run sea foam through these engines??? I may be going down an alley that already been visited or cant? If anyone knows and or knows the best way.. I know you can use a vacum line on gas burners,
 
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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What are you trying to accomplish?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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I guess a good fall cleaning.... No really i found a loose coupling on the shroud befor the turbo. The egr tube thing is in this pipe befor the turbbo and after the air filer area. well i also noticed some oil resadue sp. on the boot where boost tube turns down to enter engine after intercooled. so i must have stuff all in my plumbing. Also at times it seems like truck pulls hard and others not. Wonder if its got things in the turbo gumed up as well>
 
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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I'm not sure exactly what your refering to (lol) but i'll give this a shot. I wouldn't run anything through these engines. BG has an intake/EGR cleaning system availible, but mostly only some dealerships have that. Alot of people are not fond of it, including me. Oil residue on any of the charge air piping couplers is normal. There will be oil residue, shouldn't be dripping anything really though. I'm guessing what was loose was a clamp on the intake system, the part of the intake coming off the turbo near the degas bottle. It has a tube running into the driver side valve cover. Am I right? A clamp loose there USUALLY is not a big deal. If you are really worried about it pull those tubes off and look for damage on the turbo fins.
Also note that most turbo "gumming" is actually due to soot and carbon build up inside the exhaust side compressor of the turbocharger, not the intake side. It gets sooted up inside the housing with the unison rings and VGT vanes.

The charge air system is going to have oil residue inside of it, that is a normal characteristic of this engine.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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If you want to run a cetane booster...that would help (Ford's or Stanadyne, etc....), but little knowledge of SeaFoam is that it is primarily used in applications where you want to dilute or aborb H20 from within the fuel lines and fuel tank to disolve them from causing issues. There may be a unigue reason to use it, but I wouldn't unless I somehow got a lot of water from a fill-up or if Gasoline was ever introduced into the mix and then use it as a cleaner. I'd stick with good ole Racor filters, quality filling stations, and a cetane booster.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 06:26 AM
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I use Seafoam in everything. X, ZO6, Jetta, Scarab, E-Tech, farm tractors, excavating equipment........well you get the picture. I have found it to be a great product and I use it in both the oil and fuel. Never had a problem and it seems to help especially for farm vehicles that set for long periods of time without running. The local Autozone and Advance Auto can't keep it on the shelves but that may change since they just increased the price by about 30%.......around $6 to almost $9 a can. I buy it in the gallon cans from Advance Auto or Wally World.

Anyway, I have never directly injected it into X with the engine running. Not sure what that would accomplish vice using it in the oil and fuel. The only toy I pour it directly into the motor is my Scarab when I store it in the winter. I put two cans in the X about 200 miles before an oil change. I dump a can in the fuel about every 3rd or 4th fill up primarily to remove any residual moisture and I add about 3 to 4 oz. of Hot Shots Cetane Booster to every fuel fill up.

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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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sense i spent many years in outside parts sales for Peterbilt i have seen my fair share of garages with big trucks engines having work done. I have seen what lucas and other prodcts can do. I know Seafoam will not overhual your engine by just putting it in. I am thinking though befor i dive in and delete an EGR system or make minor enginering changes i would like to do routine filter changes. Use quality lubericants, And use soom proven products additves like Lucas with some cleaners every once in awhile like Seafoam and just see how it works. I have been looking at bulletproof for oil cooler/Better EGR and for that money i think i may just try above to see the duration it will take for EGR thing to act up. I got my truck with 100K I know the prev owner had routine ford services, I dont think they where as **** as me but its a good platform to start with.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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FWIW--As far as engine oils go I would recommend AGAINST any additive on a 6.0, especially Lucas (which will turn your oil to foam). With all the research and formulation time that oil companies spend on motor oils don't you think that if it was GOOD that they would add it at refinery time? If you use a good quality oil and Racor filters at the recommended intervals (5K MAX on oil) then you shouldn't have to add anything but fuel conditioner, 'cause who REALLY knows about our crappy fuel supply.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Keep in mind that whatever you put in the oil or whatever crud/sludge you hope you are breaking loose with a miracle oil additive won't all drain out when you do an oil change. Close to one gallon of oil remains in the 6.0 after a proper oil & filter change and its all going to continue to circulate through your sensitive hydraulically actuated fuel injection system.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
FWIW--As far as engine oils go I would recommend AGAINST any additive on a 6.0, especially Lucas (which will turn your oil to foam). With all the research and formulation time that oil companies spend on motor oils don't you think that if it was GOOD that they would add it at refinery time? If you use a good quality oil and Racor filters at the recommended intervals (5K MAX on oil) then you shouldn't have to add anything but fuel conditioner, 'cause who REALLY knows about our crappy fuel supply.
OK, use the same logic for FUEL. If all the fuel additives we use (far more choices then oil additives) are so GOOD, then why don't the refineries add then to the fuel?

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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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I've used a ton of Seafoam and like it. I'm sure it would work great if one is flushing their HPOP reservoir. Hey, it cured an injector knock in our 3208! It's a good product, but expensive to use in the quantities demanded by diesel engines. If you've got questions about oil in the PSD, you can end them all and use DELO 15W-40. I use it in everything (including OHC engines recommending 5W-30) and have been satisfied for over a decade. I will tell you flat out I'm not a Rotella fan and never have been. If it foams up in a gas burner, imagine what it'll do in the HPOP system!
 
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DSMMH
OK, use the same logic for FUEL. If all the fuel additives we use (far more choices then oil additives) are so GOOD, then why don't the refineries add then to the fuel?

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That's a question I can't answer, to be quite honest. I just know what oil additives do to these injectors and why they are so finicky about oil. I'm not so sure that fuel gets as much formulation time as oil does simply because you really don't have as much choice on fuel as you do oil. Yes, there are different brands of fuel (and gas) but it ALL comes down the same pipeline from the refinery to the distribution terminals and goes to the different stations from there.

How many 6.0 injectors have you seen (or heard of) fail from fuel vs. oil, and if it was fuel was water involved?
 
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 69-highboy
I'm not a Rotella fan and never have been. If it foams up in a gas burner, imagine what it'll do in the HPOP system!
It does as below in my signature line and similar in the 11 other HPOP Heui engines we operate.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by origcharger
It does as below in my signature line and similar in the 11 other HPOP Heui engines we operate.
No dissin' intended, I just don't care for Rotella 15W-40. It cost us down time (valve train & turbo) rebuild on a 3406E. I haven't used it since and have had no lubrication issues whatsoever with DELO dino 15W-40.
Hey, it's an opinion garnered through experience, and it's no less valid than any other...
 
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DSMMH
OK, use the same logic for FUEL. If all the fuel additives we use (far more choices then oil additives) are so GOOD, then why don't the refineries add then to the fuel?

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COST. They only do what is required to meet specifications.
 
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