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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Have a dumb question but i have to ask. I need to replace or repair my shower divertor.
So here is the question, do i need to cut off the water to the house to do this. This is part of a 3 part system, one for hot, then cold and then the divertor, my thinking is i can probaly do it without cutting of the water, since the water in the tub is off at the cold and hot, but figured i would ask before i try it. thanks
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Are you talking about the spout with the lift up valve? If so there is no need to shut off the water. Just use a short section of broom stick as a leverage bar and insert it into the spout. Rotate the spout counter-clockwise to remove it. Be sure to use thread tape to seal the threads of the pipe and the new spout.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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if you have a 3 valve shower valve (hot on left cold on right shower/tub in center) yes you can change the valve parts inside the body with out shutting down the water system, but all you can change is the inner valve parts, the un screw just like the water valves. if the cast brass housing is bad the whole thing needs changed and requires the water being shut off.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by helifixer
if you have a 3 valve shower valve (hot on left cold on right shower/tub in center) yes you can change the valve parts inside the body with out shutting down the water system, but all you can change is the inner valve parts, the un screw just like the water valves. if the cast brass housing is bad the whole thing needs changed and requires the water being shut off.
Helifixer I have to disagree with you on that one. The diverter valve for the setup you describe is usually located in the tub spout, which can be removed while the water is on. However to remove any component from the hot valve or the cold valve the water must be turned off first. After the handles and escutcheons come off, water needs to be turned off or you're gonna have a mess.

Seadoo- be sure to check the tub spout for leaks after reassembly. A leak on the spout can leak back through the wall and not show up until damage is done. It's most likely to leak when the diverter is activated and the shower is running, more pressure on it then.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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The OP is describing a 3 handle system where the center handle or **** diverts water to the shower or tub filler. In that case yes, the center valve can be taken apart without shutting off the water.

bodadan,if you read Helifixer's post again, you will see that he said the same thing that you did with the exception of the diverter being the center **** on the wall with the hot/cold *****. There are many tub/shower valves setup with a center diverter, not on the tub filler.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Ohhhhhhh........Now I get it. If the diverter has it's own separate **** in the wall then helifixer IS right. My apoologies and good catch.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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yes it is a 3 handle system. was able to change out the diverter this afternoon without cutting the water to the house. thanks much for the replies, and i was able to get it right the first time with no leaking.
 
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