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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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Winter Fronts??

Ok I have searched the forums and the internet for hours looking for a winter front to buy... I see that a lot of guys are using them. With winter coming I want to be prepared.Because I am Asst. Chief on local fire dept., I can't choose the weather we respond in, and we can get some really cold weather minus 20 and blowing snow.Weather guru's call them Artic Express's.
My question is where does a guy buy a decent one, for a fair price? I found only one place for about 189.00 quilted and 169.00 non quilted.. seems awful high to me.. cardboard will work but it looks pretty cheesey on a nice Superduty.and when it gets wet it goes to pot.So where have you guys gotten yours? does Ford sell them? I would like to find one that looks nice on the truck like a custom fit.I guess if I have too I will buy the 189.00 one but I figured there should be someone cheaper.Plus I want to make sure it has an opening in front of the trans. cooler.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 01:50 AM
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I use the one from Cabela's. Don't remember the price, but it's made it through two winters now.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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google Alaska Tarp and Tent
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 07:51 AM
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What year is the Superduty you are looking for a cover? Is this for one of the fire trucks or your 2004?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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I also use the one from Cabela's. It doesn't cover the bottom openings like the Alaska Tarp and Tent ones, but it's a lot cheaper and it works quite well. And it has a bug screen that works nice in the summer time.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Fia winter/summer kit

I have had these for the last two diesel Fords I've owned. The winter part is quilted with open or closed vents for colder or warmer days, Screen fits nice too. the snaps hook to the grill by 3m tape. Igot mine in Billings mt truck assessory store for around 63.00 dollars. Google Fia and find a dealer close to you....Tim
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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I live in Alaska and had mine made by Custom Canvas in Fairbanks. I can't remember the price but I believe I paid about $90, installed. Obviously you would have to install yourself. They had 2 versions. A single layer smooth and a dual layer quilted with reflective inner layer. Both go low enough to cover the bumper opening and your power steering hoses. They had templates for most truck models. If I remember right, they could also do custom colors for the exterior vinyl.

Mine is the dual layer quilted and has lasted through 4 winters and shows no signs of wear other than being really dirty. It zips in the middle allowing you to open it to 2 different sizes as the temperature outside fluctuates. It is very light and can probably be folded into a USPS flat rate shipping box. I don't know them and don't know if they ship.

I don't know a name to give you but their contact info from the yellow pages is:

Custom Canvas Alaska Llc
3411 Lathrop St Ste F
Fairbanks, AK 99701 Map
(907) 455-7722

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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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The engine and trans both have thermostats, what's the point?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cartmanea
The engine and trans both have thermostats, what's the point?
When it gets to 20 or 30 below 0 (or even 60 below in some places) your engine never gets to operating temperature. This causes it to run rich making for terrible MPGs. It also makes it impossible to warm your car to a tolerable temp inside.

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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Is this from a leaky thermostat? I can't imagine the convection cooling of the air temp in the engine bay making that much difference. Of course, its rarely below 0 here
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Is this from a leaky thermostat? I can't imagine the convection cooling of the air temp in the engine bay making that much difference. Of course, its rarely below 0 here
I am dating myself, but I remember one New Years Eve in Lake George, NY, it was so cold, while driving on the highway, the temperature gauge on my 78 Jeep CJ was actually falling from its normal operating temperature.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cartmanea
Is this from a leaky thermostat? I can't imagine the convection cooling of the air temp in the engine bay making that much difference. Of course, its rarely below 0 here
We are talking EXTREME temps here. You are on the right track. As you mentioned, convection cooling is one issue, both of the engine bay itself and of the oil as the cold air washes over the oil pan. Another is supercooling of the coolant as it goes through the radiator. This causes it to cool so quickly and so efficiently that the combustion heat can't overcome it. Lastly, as the supercold air is pumped into the cylinders, it cools the engine (the same principle is at work when the PCM operates on half the cylinders to protect the engine when it overheats).

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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iron1951
the temperature gauge on my 78 Jeep CJ was actually falling from its normal operating temperature.
Same thing happened in our minivan here and it eventually got so low it wasn't even registering a temperature.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ex03AK
(the same principle is at work when the PCM operates on half the cylinders to protect the engine when it overheats).

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The PCM will defuel, but I've never heard on it cutting cylinders out.
 
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