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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Need help: Switch to electric fuel pump

Just found out today the cam I have is out of a superduty and has no lobe for our mechanical fuel pump. I think i.m just gonna switch to an electric setup. What all do i need to get to do it? Pictures would be great
 
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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wes, heres a good writeup psn electric fuel conversion
 
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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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is there any way to put an electric pump in place for the manual one and keep the stock fuel bowl and regulator? I'm really strapped on cash at the moment
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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You would HAVE to use a SD fuel can, the OBS won't hold the pressure. But then if you went with an SD fuel can, you'd need a SD HPOP reservoir to mount it...
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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That figures. Guess i'm building something. I saw on the PSN article that the guy had about 500 in parts to do it. Can I just buy a regulated air dog or fass system and a super duty pump? Looking at the article the amount i pay in labor would end up offsetting the difference if all i need is the pump and system
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Will this work as a stand alone?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airdo...Q5fAccessories
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Got a Air Dog ll on the way. Its supposed to be a standalone unit
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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that air dog system is not a stand alone pump. You will still need a SD Fuel pump to have accurate pressures. When I did mine I had less than 500 total in everything. It can be done cheap. I opted to not go with the Air Dog System instead went with a SD pump then a Pre-Filter/Water sep. and then a post filter. Kinda like the same as the guy over on PSN
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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My understanding was the original air dog needs the superduty pump but Air Dog ll is stand alone. Its only been out a few months
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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did some research and the ones I found for the Powerstroke still only produce 5 psi of fuel pressure. Not to much different than the first Air Dog systems except the AD II have a adjustable regulator.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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<CENTER>6.4 PowerStroke Injection

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New for the 6.4 PowerStroke is the high pressure common rail fuel injection system with piezo-electric injectors. While technically the 7.3 and 6.0 PowerStrokes had a common rail system (all injectors fed from a common fuel rail and not individual lines), it was classified differently due to the high pressure oil system used to actuate the injectors. The high pressure oil pump has been replaced by a high pressure (up to 26,000 PSI) fuel pump driven off the camshaft at the rear of the engine. Built into the high pressure pump are computer-controlled fuel pressure and volume control valves. The high pressure pump supplies the injectors fuel through fuel rails under the valve covers. Fuel returns from the rails back to the tank through the same cooler used by the VGT actuator. The piezo-electric injectors are designed to provide more precise fuel control through multiple injection (up to 5 injections per combustion event) with reduced noise. Fuel is supplied to two chambers in each injector: the high pressure (delivery) chamber at the nozzle, and the control piston chamber. The nozzle needle is held closed by a spring and by fuel pressure in the control chamber. The injector is actuated when the engine control module (ECM) sends a high-voltage signal to the piezo actuator at the top of the injector. The piezo discs in the actuator flex and press on a hydraulic check valve, which causes fuel pressure in the control chamber to bleed off. Fuel pressure in the high pressure chamber causes the nozzle needle to lift off its seat and fuel passes through the spray holes at the nozzle tip. The ECM deactivates the injector by reversing polarity to the piezo discs. This allows spring pressure to close the check valve, fuel pressure builds in the control chanber, and the nozzle needle closes, ending injection. The ECM alone controls injector operation, with no extermal IDM/FICM as found on the 7.3 and 6.0 PowerStrokes.

* The new AD II are advertised for the 6.4L The 6.4 uses a lift pump to supply the High pressure pump thats on the engine. So technically the new AD is a stand alone pump for the 6.4 because it replaces the factory lift pump. You can still use that AD II system, but you will also still need a SD pump to go with it because the 5psi just aint enough. Sorry man.
 
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