since you 2 are so patently convinced that this is unacceptable...I offer you this.


Go buy a Mercedes or BMW. Or Toyota. Or Nissan...am I missing any other of the "Reliable" cars?Let me say it again. Even with flawless QA controls, you will have issues. Nature of the game. Realty sucks.

 

No we are not focused on ALL the F150's supposed problems, we are focused on one issue, a defective transmission, I have owned lots of vehicles like you, out of the lot had one bad experience with a GMCer, but IF you have an open mind, in that me, the prospective F150 buyer, is keenly interested in one, starts doing research & discovering not a few, but a multitude of people complaining of the same problem, this one being a MAJOR component, before you dump 50g's on one would you not want to be sure the problem has been rectified?
Thats all I'm out here for, is to find out if these issues have been alleviated with the new software on the 2010's before tossing my money to my salesman.
This is not F150 bashing, I love the truck, but I was bitten once, thats enough for this guy!

 

Since when is a $25 computer flash a MAJOR component???? I call that nickle dime chi%.

 

Well when it has the effect that it does on a transmission I would consider that major, especially with all these people have had this procedure done are still saying the problem comes back or is worse, so your nickle & dime procedure does squat!
If the 2010's have a new "nickel & dime" software that I'm told is the cure all, why didn't Ford just replace all the defective units that came rolling into the shops?

 

You do realize that the transmission is not the problem. it's a TCM program issue. Which is solved by a TSB update. It would be the same as you saying your not going to buy the PC you want because the graphics drivers that come with it are no good!

 

Yes I do understand that, but even if it is a 20cent part, if it makes my transmission act goofy FIX it, I do read every thing I can get my hands on about this truck, & a common theme is that even after the re-flash a large percentage of folks say that after a short time its back sometimes worse, again if the the new software has the desired effect on the 2010 Platinum I'm eyeballin I'll be rollin in Jan, as said I love everthing about this truck, it beats the GMC's & Rams hands down, I've been in them all & compared, I think we beat this one to death!!!

 

I wouldn't pay 50K for it either, I'm simply referring to MSRP as point of value on the vehicle.

OMG dude, where in the hell did that come from?! I'm not the least bit narrow minded. I read plenty in the auto world and I realize that there are issues with all car makers. No thank you on the import junk. I've owned a Honda and never again.

You can say what ever you want and defend Ford to the death but a major driveline component failure / flaw within the first 10k miles is simply not acceptable. Let it happen to you and see if your still in Fordtopia. There are some people that are frustrated over a transmission issue that the dealer can't seem to get worked out and your telling this guy(s) to suck it up and stop bitching.

That's not sound advise coming from you, a person whom I respect. I follow you posts and 99.9% of the time you make perfectly good sense. Not this time sir.
He / they bought the truck and Ford promised to back the driveline for 60K miles. Ford and the dealer(s) need to toe the line and repair / replace until the customers are satisfied. That's the deal, that's one of the ways that Ford bribes us to buy a new vehicle.

The F-150 is leading the industry in quality as they obviously have the lowest failure / flaw rate among other vehicles in it's class. That's fantastic and salute Ford for that very awesome achievement, but, they still have work to do. Once the truck is built, the job ain't done. The most important job comes after the sale.

Tim

 

There's no point in complaining about something that is causeing you no issue. As some have said more than 99% of people with 09's currently have no issue with the trans. If you goto a forum and look for problems then you are going to find them as this is where the small amount of people come who have problems. I have been a member since i first purchased my 09 and the trans problem has been very very limited. I would worry more about the head liner as there's far more chance of you getting that than a fauty trans.

 

my point is, people are going around acting like Chicken Little.
I'm apparently having a bad day and my sense of tact is missing at the moment. I appologize for offending people, but i stand by my words.If anybody is having issues with their current vehicle, keep after Ford. File complaints and do the follow-ups required. Swap to another dealership for repairs.




as for taking the high road and getting all high & mighty on me, how about doing a little reading of the link below.

I spent 3 months and 41 days of downtime fighting Ford and a Dealership to get my Expy fixed. I know what I'm talking about. I'm not some a-hole standing on the pulpit preaching to the masses with no real experience.

 

Sir, I'm right there with you. I've had my issues with Ford and a dealer over the past 25 years of new and used Ford ownership. We got them worked out using Ford's system as I previously recommended that he do.

On this site we read the good, bad and ugly from pissed off subscribers, usually those who found us seeking info and answers. Some of these people never come back and visit us some stay and some are trolling. These are all pretty easy to pick out.

Some of the older members here have a lower tolerance than others and that comes from reading so many posts from new pissed off members. I'm coming on 2 years myself and I'm seeing the same ole thing being said by different folks as well.

The negative posts are as educational as the positive ones. I'm here to learn from people such as yourself and from others who have valuable info to share.

Tim

 

Ok guys will put this one to bed, this being my first Ford, & this being the first new truck that really has me droolin in anticipation, (never hapened with my new GMC's), trying to get it right, sounds like I have, thanks for all your info, come Jan will be in the Platinum, & I will post lots of pics? One last question can I purchase a rubber bed mat from Ford or aftermarket?.

 

There is nothing worse than a blind fan boy also. I enjoy all threads but at least attempt to fix something before going on a tirade.

 

Its not the fact that it shifts often, it is the manner in which it shifts. And are you currently dealing with this situation that you can say it is untrue that if there are no codes or TSBs that they will not fix it? I AM! And it is true, as a matter of fact they not only wont fix it they dont know how to fix it. I am currently dealing with a factory tech and have had the reflash done (that made it worse) and he drove my truck today. He agrees that the shifts are not good but has to contact someone else because there is currently no clear fix.

As far as problems go there are a hell of a lot of people who have no idea what the internet is let alone this website that have problems and never get it out there. This tranny should have never hit the market with problems like this. I was told by the factory tech when I asked if I was the only complaint on this that "if you were the only one there wouldnt be reflashes out to be done".

 

We are talking about the F150! they king of the f*****g road. There are higher expections then from the other companys you mentioned.

 

Those of you who think there are only a couple people in the US with these tranny problems are just not facing reality. As the above quote states, Ford will not spend a penny if they don't have too. The fact that this transmission has had numerous firmware upgrades proves there is a problem here with the software. For many, the re-flash solves the problem, for others, it won't or it will make it worse. If you are one of the unlucky people who it did not work for, don't get mad, get even. Let them attempt to fix it 3-4 times, then file your lemon law paperwork. Taking it back 20 times and driving around angry is your alternative.