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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Engine help wont fire help asap thanks

just got done rebuilding the top half of my motor(just lifters rods and rockers).
now it wont run, acording to the timing light its firing all eight, pulled two plugs so far, both were working, although the sparked looked kinda funny, it was orange not blue.
i used starting fluid and still couldnt get it to do anything but shoot a flame out the intake once or twice, i've tried rotating to distributor as i had to get a new one from a junkyard, hope its good.
Please any info or help will be greatly apreaciated
p.s. how easy should the distributor spin out of the motor, the original one spun real freely while the new one seems tight.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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i used starting fluid and still couldnt get it to do anything but shoot a flame out the intake once or twice

Do you have the distributor set in 180deg out?

Need to verify all settings first, valve and ignition timing, then work on the weak spark condition. Could be something as simple as a bad connection or a ground you missed putting it back together.
Take a few minutes and re-check your work.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Set crank to 0 degrees and the rotor faces back at number one. still nothing everythings hooked up.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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ps what is the spout connector?
 
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Set crank to 0 degrees and the rotor faces back at number one. still nothing everythings hooked up.

Ok but is #1 piston on the compression or exhaust stroke?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JFlom77
ps what is the spout connector?
Spout connectors only came on EFI vehicles. (It would help if you gave some indication of what vechile you were working on)
The Spout Connector is a harness plug that when removed eliminates computer control/advance of the timing while you are setting the advance at idle.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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p.s. how easy should the distributor spin out of the motor, the original one spun real freely while the new one seems tight.
Thanks
I think Danr1 is on the right track here.

The old one spun easily because the lubrication was fresh.....and the bushings may have been worn. Why did you replace the distributor? Why a junk yard one? New ones are cheap...even cheaper to rebuild yours.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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ditributor bolt broke when takin out and couldnt extract and ended up braking the tab off, rotor was 180 degrees off, shes running now, just dialiing it in to 10 degrees BTDC.

my trucks a 92 f250 efi 5.8.

thanks alot guys
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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ditributor bolt broke when takin out and couldnt extract and ended up braking the tab off, rotor was 180 degrees off, shes running now, just dialiing it in to 10 degrees BTDC.

my trucks a 92 f250 efi 5.8.

thanks alot guys
Ahhh..The ears broke off the housing. I've had that happen before. No fun there.

Congatulations for getting it running!

And Danr1 correctly diagnosed the problem! Good Job Danr1
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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yea thanks alot Danr1.
so i timed it to 10 BTDC without the spout connector and when i plug it back in it idles at 15 degrees BTDC, im guessing thats normal.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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yea thanks alot Danr1.
so i timed it to 10 BTDC without the spout connector and when i plug it back in it idles at 15 degrees BTDC, im guessing thats normal.
Your welcome, glad I was able to help.

And yea that is very normal, the computer is advancing the timing a tad over the base setting at an idle like it should.
 
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