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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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[quote=StarTrash;7948296]its connected to the carb in the front its really low on the carb.. it idles great..quote]

That's manifold vacuum, connect it to ported vacuum and you should see an improvement with your off idle acceleration (assuming the vacuum advance is working properly) though you will need to re-adjust your idle speed.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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so i should connect it to a higher port on the carb?.. and then just plug the old one.?.. and then what do you mean by adjust the idle speed?.. the idle screw.?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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so i should connect it to a higher port on the carb?.. and then just plug the old one.?.. and then what do you mean by adjust the idle speed?.. the idle screw.?
I'm not sure which carb you're dealing with but it doesn't really matter, connect your dizzys vacuum adavance to the highest port (above throttle blades) this will allow the V/A to "kick in" after you open the throttle, just plug the port you were previously plugged into, though you can run a vacuum gauge from that port into your cab if you want too (great diagnostic tool) you'll need to re-adjust your idle because pulling manifold vacuum was advancing your timimg at idle therefore increasing your idle speed.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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so the vac advance shouldnt advance at idle?.. should advance only when in the throttle?.. cause when i pull it off the idle drops like crazy.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 01:25 AM
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so the vac advance shouldnt advance at idle?.. should advance only when in the throttle?.. cause when i pull it off the idle drops like crazy.
Sounds like you never diagnosed the issue properly in the first place.

The vacuum hose for the advance should go to the passenger side of the carburetor below the choke housing. This is the ported source. At idle with the throttle blades closed, there is little to no vacuum operation like Montana-Highboy advised.

While checking the timing, you must remove the vacuum hose from the vacuum advance and plug the line. Retime it after you do that. Anywhere between 6-14 BTDC.

If the idle drops when you remove the advance vacuum, it's been advanced all along since the manifold vacuum is always present. Remove & plug the vacuum line. Readjust idle in Drive to 600-700 RPM. Also hook a vacuum gauge to a manifold vacuum source. Adjust the vacuum reading to 17-21 Hg by turning the idle mixture screws on the carburetor base.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 01:55 AM
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well the vaccum on my previous trucks have always been plugged where i have mine now.. i will try the passenger side in the morning.. thanks everyone hoply this is the problem.. ill feel dumb .. but hell itll be fixed
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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ok i played with a few things.. did the vac advance to a different port .. had to retime it but it runs a little better.. actually some accerlation.. got a hold of a vaccum gauge it reads anywhere from 10-15 when i play with the mixture screws.. ive checked for vac leaks cant find any.. i was told b4 i had the motor it was ran with just the headers.. no exhaust... so im thinking maybe a burnt valve?.. anyway to check?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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forgot to mention that the needle jumps back and forth..

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http://www.users.bigpond.com/ergoff/vac1.htm


i have a burnt valve worn valve guides or leaky valves.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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If you're reading between 10-15" of vacuum @idle with an erratic needle you definitely have a problem like you've already stated, a healthy motor will pull 18-20" of vacuum @idle (give or take an inch).
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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That's great it was a little better - it should have been that way. However, sounds like a valve job is in order. Bummer.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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yea .. well ive got some heads off a good motor just had a fuel problem.. found out after pull outta a different truck.. same motor.. so i might just be doing a swap..
Dont know yet but Thanks for all the help.!!
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Running a compression test today.. just wondering what a good compression should be? i did 1 and 2 yesterday b4 it rained.. and they both read out in the 150-155 range
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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umm ok.. what could cause no more then 30 compression in cylinder 6... im gonna test 7 and 8 while waiting on a response.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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ok so 7 was fine.... 8 had no more then 60.. so cylinders 6 and 8... 30-60.. What could it be?... valves? .. there wasnt oil all over the spark plug so the rings arent gone... or hole in piston.. my guess would be valves?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Taking your vacuum gauge reading, compression check and the fact it was ran with open headers all into account i would suspect the valves as well.
 
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