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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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302 intake ?

I am replacing my worn out autolite 2100 with a Holley 4160 600cfm. I would like to know what intake manifold would be best to use. I like the Weiand Stealth but unsure if it is the right one to use vs. the edelbrock performer. any suggestions will be appreciated.

The engine is a 1970 302 stock except for headers and an open air filter. Auto trans too.

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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Can't go wrong with the edelbrock. Price is cheap and performance is good!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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what vehicle is the motor in?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...pictureid=4278 here are the numbers for my setup on a 289 - weaind stealth and 4160. I like it,no problems.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kemicalburns
what vehicle is the motor in?

1970 F100 2wd short bed
the engine is a 68' 302 or 289. I have not Idea how to tell them apart without disassembling.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gearhed1971
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...pictureid=4278 here are the numbers for my setup on a 289 - weaind stealth and 4160. I like it,no problems.
You have noting else done to the engine? just the intake and a 4160?
that is something to look forward to by just adding the 4bbl..
Thank you..
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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weiand intake is a great intake on a truck. also rear gears are a big help if your looking to go fast. do you know what you have out back?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kemicalburns
weiand intake is a great intake on a truck. also rear gears are a big help if your looking to go fast. do you know what you have out back?

Ford 9" with 3.83 installed and a spare 3rd member in the shed with 4.11's or 4.10's I forget. Need to look at it
 
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What are the advantages and disadvantages of having the 'rear water crossover' vs. Not having it.. (Weiand 8020 vs. Weiand 8124)

what are the advantages and disavantages of having a 'high rise' vs. a 'low rise' manifold ? (8020 vs. 8124)

Thanks all..
Going on a stock + headers & open air filter 1968 302/289 in a 1970 F100.. Original engine as far as the paperwork and id plates go for the truck..
 
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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The rear crossover has something to do with cold weather drive-ability I think. It supplies some heat to the carb or so I've been told. With or without is not a big issue as far as I know. Edelbrock's don't have them.
The only reason I could see to go with the 8124 is if you had hood clearance issues or just wanted a more stock look. While they don't show a difference in the stats, higher is better as it will give you a teeny bit more velocity and better flow.
FWIW- I have heard that the Weiand's are hands down better than the Edelbrock's, but I can't remember which intakes that were compared. In other words, if they were single planes, then that info means nothing.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by doug1222556
The rear crossover has something to do with cold weather drive-ability I think. It supplies some heat to the carb or so I've been told. With or without is not a big issue as far as I know. Edelbrock's don't have them.
The only reason I could see to go with the 8124 is if you had hood clearance issues or just wanted a more stock look. While they don't show a difference in the stats, higher is better as it will give you a teeny bit more velocity and better flow.
FWIW- I have heard that the Weiand's are hands down better than the Edelbrock's, but I can't remember which intakes that were compared. In other words, if they were single planes, then that info means nothing.

Thank you very much for the info. I believe I will stick with my first thought of the Stealth 8020..
Thanks again..
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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I was just offered a trade -- My freshly rebuilt 600cfm Holley 4160 for a freshly rebuilt 500cfm Holley 2300...
I have a 2bbl intake still on my truck, I was going to spend the $175 for a new 4bbl intake but by doing this trade I could not spend a dime...
Any thoughts on if I am being taken on the trade, is the 2300 worth a crap, show performance suffer?
I am kind of leaning to not making the deal. Let me know your thoughts please..
 
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Nah,I wouldn't trade.You'd get better mileage w/ the 4v carb,and better power when you need or want it.I have a 500 cfm on my '73 f100,and it's only ok.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gearhed1971
Nah,I wouldn't trade.You'd get better mileage w/ the 4v carb,and better power when you need or want it.I have a 500 cfm on my '73 f100,and it's only ok.

That's what I was thinking but I would save a few hundred in parts and a Saturday afternoon by just swapping carbs, I would probably spend it later anyway.. Guess I could put an adapter plate to run a 4v on a 2v intake.. anyone ever use one of these?

thanks again..
 
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Run the 500 2bbl if you don't want to get a 4bbl manifold. 4bbl on a 2bbl manifold is a waste.

The 500 cfm 2bbl needs to be fiddled with, as the accelerator pumps are often overkill for a smaller engine.

I ran one for a short time on a 289, but then went to a Motorcraft 2bbl off a 390 that worked better and didn't bog the motor when I nailed it. (bog for a second then take off with a puff of black smoke and a chirp from the tires....)
 
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