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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Okay, I'm having a 3 skip sensation upon acceleration. I'm not exactly sure where it is coming from but it sounds like it's somewhere in the rear of the truck. There is no sound to it I can just feel the motion. Not sure if it's the tranny slipping or maybe u-joints, or the rear diff. This past weekend I flushed the tranny out all new fluids and filter and I added some Lucas tranny slip just to be safe. No change. About 2 months ago I serviced the rear diff didn't notice any teeth gouged no metal shavings. So, maybe u-joints? I'm at a loss of ideas.

To add on this I feel the same sensation when I come to a complete stop and let off the brake some so you don't get that hard jerk. As I release the brakes to accelerate I feel the slip and as I step on the gas I get the 3 skip sensation. Now mind you I'm still moving through all this it's just the initial feeling. Once I'm going I don't feel anything. Any ideas fellas?
 
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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is it a clunk???

i don't know if i get what your trying to describe.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 12:25 AM
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is it a clunk???

i don't know if i get what your trying to describe.

I guess you can say it's a clunk but a 3 part clunk. Except there is no noise to it.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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hmm the only thing i can think of that is pretty common with our trucks is the drive line splines. they run out of grease then they clunk when you go from a stop. read this and try it. even if it doesn't end up helping your problem you still might as well do it because your truck being a 2000 it probably needs it anyways. but i think this might be your problem.

http://www.eurekaboy.com/f250/slipjoint.htm

yours may or may not look like his driveline. but it should have the splines in it somewhere that need grease.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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Did you add friction modifier to the rear differential?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by THEDON117
Okay, I'm having a 3 skip sensation upon acceleration. I'm not exactly sure where it is coming from but it sounds like it's somewhere in the rear of the truck. There is no sound to it I can just feel the motion. Not sure if it's the tranny slipping or maybe u-joints, or the rear diff. This past weekend I flushed the tranny out all new fluids and filter and I added some Lucas tranny slip just to be safe. No change. About 2 months ago I serviced the rear diff didn't notice any teeth gouged no metal shavings. So, maybe u-joints? I'm at a loss of ideas.

To add on this I feel the same sensation when I come to a complete stop and let off the brake some so you don't get that hard jerk. As I release the brakes to accelerate I feel the slip and as I step on the gas I get the 3 skip sensation. Now mind you I'm still moving through all this it's just the initial feeling. Once I'm going I don't feel anything. Any ideas fellas?
Do you feel this cluck just before you come to a complete stop? Then do you feel like it is hesitating just a second when you take off and you can feel a clunk also? This is happening to my truck to. Getting ready to take it to my mechanic to take a look at it because it doesn't feel right to me.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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Do you feel this cluck just before you come to a complete stop? Then do you feel like it is hesitating just a second when you take off and you can feel a clunk also? This is happening to my truck to. Getting ready to take it to my mechanic to take a look at it because it doesn't feel right to me.

Yes, sometimes I do feel the clunk just before coming to a complete stop. Mine doesn't have the hesitation upon accelerating. It does have hesitation if I try to get on it and take off.

To answer Megawatt00, I used the Royal Purple fluid which has the modifier built in. Do you think I still need to add some anyway? I willing to try anything at this point.

I'm planning on doing the slip joint regreasing next week. If that solves the problem I will let you all know.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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Well,

I still haven't had a chance to do the slip joint re-grease to see if that's the problem. How about U-joints? Does anyone reccomend a good replacement u-joint that's greasable? How do you tell if your u-joints are shot? I did notice that the companion flange has a build up of oil on it.

In my previous post I answered megawatt00 and told him I didn't put any friction modifier in the rear diff because I used Royal Purple which had the additive built in. Should I still add the modifier anyway? I don't get any chattering or clunking when I turn and I thought that is what the modifier is for?

If it weren't for this clunking sensation my truck would running fine. I could still use some ideas/advice. Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Well,

I still haven't had a chance to do the slip joint re-grease to see if that's the problem. How about U-joints? Does anyone reccomend a good replacement u-joint that's greasable? How do you tell if your u-joints are shot? I did notice that the companion flange has a build up of oil on it.

In my previous post I answered megawatt00 and told him I didn't put any friction modifier in the rear diff because I used Royal Purple which had the additive built in. Should I still add the modifier anyway? I don't get any chattering or clunking when I turn and I thought that is what the modifier is for?

If it weren't for this clunking sensation my truck would running fine. I could still use some ideas/advice. Thanks.
Most good quality ujoints are not greasable. Not saying there is anything wrong with greasables but most people hurt them the first time they grease them. If you fill them till they start to spew grease you have killed the seal on them. Just give it a couple pumps of the greasegun and cetrifical force will get the grease to the cups. A mechanic buddy told me this and it made sense. Yes I run greaseables because this is the hunting/fishing truck and it sees a fair bit of mud and water so it gets grease often. If you don't bushwack your truck you probably don't need greasables.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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If your not getting any chattering or clunking from the rear, I would say your fine with the modifier. I got the RP in my diff and I had to add just a tiny bit of modifier because mine was scratching around turns but all is fine now. Just for the heck of it, hows your tranny fluid and transfer case oil?? Other than that, your driveshaft joints are the only thing I can think off. A bad rear, clutches, subscribing.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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If your not getting any chattering or clunking from the rear, I would say your fine with the modifier. I got the RP in my diff and I had to add just a tiny bit of modifier because mine was scratching around turns but all is fine now. Just for the heck of it, hows your tranny fluid and transfer case oil?? Other than that, your driveshaft joints are the only thing I can think off. A bad rear, clutches, subscribing.

Okay cool, I will add some then. As for the tranny and transfer case, they just got changed with fresh fluid. So, maybe replacing the joints might make the difference. I'm wondering if I should check the rear diff again even though I just replace the fluid 3 months ago?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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THEDON117 did you figure out your clunking noise yet.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jcrammell
THEDON117 did you figure out your clunking noise yet.
Not quite. I've narrowed it down to the slip joint and U-joints. I'm going to do the slip joint regreasing this weekend along with replacing my u-joints on my rear drive shaft. I took a look at them and I saw how bad they were....yikes!! Looks like they have been worn out for some time now, the freaking caps are all loose and there is hardly any grease left in these things. One of them looks likes the needle bearings are poking out.

I will let you know how it turns out this weekend and I will post back with the result.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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THEDON117 When I had gone through and replaced my drive line universals, I also replaced the support bearing, this seemed to help the start slip I was feeling, the rubber around the bearing wears and allows the bearing to move around at stop and start because of torque. FYI My parts supplier wanted to know the shaft size where the bearing is located.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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THEDON117 When I had gone through and replaced my drive line universals, I also replaced the support bearing, this seemed to help the start slip I was feeling, the rubber around the bearing wears and allows the bearing to move around at stop and start because of torque. FYI My parts supplier wanted to know the shaft size where the bearing is located.
Thanks for the info Want-A-Be 7.3. I may just do that. Do you remember what that part ran you?
 
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